AH's Signature Opinions

[TotenkopfSS]

Hello collectors

I've been offered a document with fuhrer's signature.

I think it could be a promising original handwritten AH'signature but I'm not an expert, could you control it please?

thanks in advance, cheers Mike

[crfraser]

The slope looks strange to me but there seems to be photographic distortion based on the type above the signature. Any chance of a better straight on photo?

Colin

[Simon O.]

You should show the whole document as well if you can.

[TotenkopfSS]

Let me thank you all of you for help! Here the picture of entire document

Cheers, Mike

[crfraser]

Looks to be printed to my non-expert eye.

[Steve Sherlock]

Looks to me to be real fountain pen, or pen dipped in an ink well. Not machine done. Now, whether H himself did it, I can't comment. Leave that one to the many experts we have here.

Steve

[voelender]

Looks also that is was a stamped signature and redone with a pen.
I am also not an expert but that is my opinion.

[Jeremy]

Looks also that is was a stamped signature and redone with a pen.

Actually, that was my initial impression, too.

[max history]

I'll go with Steve here. In my opinion, this is a handwritten, genuine Hitler ink signature.
It is not printed or stamped as there are crossovers visible. For it to have been a stamped signature, overwritten, the writer would have to achieve an impossible degree of accuracy. Then one would have to ask "why on earth would he do that"?
Max.

[DZR]

I usually agree with Max, but in this case, I must differ. My impression is the same as that shared by voelender and Jeremy - that someone has written over a stamped signature. Max's point that to achieve success, an "impossible degree of accuracy" would be necessary. That's true, but I think the effort has failed in this case. Another thing that I don't like is the color of the signature. I own several original signatures, and have scrutinized many more, and none of them is the bright shade that this signature is. There is no sign of the oxidation that you should expect looking at vintage ink. On the contrary, it looks "right out of the bottle", which is, of course, my opinion.

[max history]

I have several authentic Hitler signatures which are of the same colour ink as this, with little or no evidence of oxidation. This only occurs in ink which contains iron filings - common in inks pre-war, but not always. By the 1930s, inks were being produced without iron content.
The "twin" appearance of a fountain pen nib is very common as nibs are made in two halves. Differing pressure on the pen produces what sometimes manifests as two lines. Copying over a printed example always produces this effect, unless a nib is used the exact dimensions as the print. It is always obvious under magnification as fountain pen ink is different to printing ink. Copying over print is consistent throughout the entire signature. The two downward strokes in "Adolf" clearly show a single ink deposit (with crossovers) thereby discounting the overwriting theory. Overwriting is renowned to be extremely difficult for several reasons and I have yet to see an example which is not plainly obvious to the naked eye.
Of course, assessing a signature from a browser alone is not to be recommended and physical examination is the only correct method of authentication, but I am sticking with my original suggestion.
Max.