Hitler 1937 Autopen Signature?

[RobertE]

Hello,

Reviewing the threads on the topic, it appears this document bears an stamped signature which is fine with me. I'd appreciate a review by our signature experts on this one.

Thank you.

regards, Robert

[RobertE]

Kind of a clunky signature next to the more elegant, spidery versions of his mark. This looks like it was done with a broader-font stamp or pen.

[RobertE]

The silvery arc in the image is from my camera - not on the document.

Thanks for the help.

s/f Robert

[hucks216]

Hello,

Reviewing the threads on the topic, it appears this document bears an stamped signature which is fine with me. I'd appreciate a review by our signature experts on this one.

Thank you.

regards, Robert

It is a facsimile example of his signature.
The hand signed signature in the bottom right corner is that of Werner Zschintzsch.

[Tom B]

Yes, a facsimile. Tom

[RobertE]

Thanks guys. A facsimile is a stamp, or does someone pump these out?

s/f Robert

[hucks216]

In this case, printed.

[RobertE]

Thank you.

regards, Robert

[praubal]

Why do people perpetuate the ridiculous myth of a Hitler Autopen.....?
Thee was no such thing used by him or his secretaries...never mentioned in any of their memoirs etc...and no evidence of such a device

[RobertE]

This would be an interesting discussion topic, and perhaps you should open a thread on it. Autopen references are common in a number of threads on the forum, and I'm sure folks would appreciate being set straight.

In this case, I thought stamped but it appears it was printed, which to me indicates the signature was printed with the rest of the document.

s/f Robert

[praubal]

This would be an interesting discussion topic, and perhaps you should open a thread on it. Autopen references are common in a number of threads on the forum, and I'm sure folks would appreciate being set straight.

In this case, I thought stamped but it appears it was printed, which to me indicates the signature was printed with the rest of the document.

s/f Robert

I think it would just be another tit for tat type thread to be honest ...getting nowhere fast

[Br. James]

I agree that this is a printed signature of Hitler's, which was printed with this retirement document. What's interesting to me is that this official announcement from the Reich and Prussian Ministry of Science, Education and Popular Culture was prepared and presented to the President's Chancellery (Dr. Otto Meissner) by the Secretary of State for that ministry and not by the Reichsminister, Dr. Bernhard Rust, himself.

I also agree that Hitler's signature only appears as an original signing or by printing; he never used the autopen. This may appear to be unusual, given that President Franklin Roosevelt did use the autopen regularly.

Br. James

[max history]

Why do people perpetuate the ridiculous myth of a Hitler Autopen.....?
Thee was no such thing used by him or his secretaries...never mentioned in any of their memoirs etc...and no evidence of such a device

What about the later Knights Cross of the Iron Cross award documents which are now generally accepted to be autopen signatures? I agree that earlier examples of his signature were either handwritten or printed, but on many later RK documents, his signature is exactly the same. There can be no other explanation for such uniformity. And Göring used an autopen extensively, so it was not unknown in the TR hierarchy.
Max.