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    #46
    # 34 - that´s it for today
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    silent leges et artes inter arma - im Waffenlärm schweigen die Gesetze und die Künste

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      #47
      In my opinion the album is a fake make up. They appear to be press photo copies or copies from the Ribbentrop Collection. I have seen a large number of them before and many of them have been published. Still, the images are nice.
      Max.
      Last edited by max history; 11-21-2005, 03:13 AM.

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        #48
        Originally posted by max history
        In my opinion the album is a fake make up. They appear to be press photo copies or copies from the Ribbentrop Collection. I have seen a large number of them before and many of them have been published. Still, the images are nice.
        Max.
        As this is the second opinion that these are copies I think it´s time to find some proof. So where or in which books can these "press photos" be found
        There´s got to be a source when so many seem to have seen these photos before.

        Thanks in advance,

        ustufvorwaerts
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        silent leges et artes inter arma - im Waffenlärm schweigen die Gesetze und die Künste

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          #49
          regardless if this are press photos or not, the weird thing about them is that they all show a moiree, matrix dots, that appear when photos have been rastered for printing. you will have noticed this effect if you tried to scan pics from a book. thus it******180;s not likely that this images were made from negatives or were photo to photo copies. ???

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            #50
            I believe in an earlier post it was said that the album owner did not have a scanner so these images are from photocopies.

            How about a blacklight test to check when the pictures were printed to start..

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              #51
              Originally posted by Lisa Thompson
              I believe in an earlier post it was said that the album owner did not have a scanner so these images are from photocopies.

              How about a blacklight test to check when the pictures were printed to start..
              Hi Lisa,

              many thanks !!!
              All the pics posted here are scanned images of paper copies made of the original photos as the owner does not have a scanner or digital camera !!!

              Cheers, ustufvorwaerts
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              silent leges et artes inter arma - im Waffenlärm schweigen die Gesetze und die Künste

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                #52
                sorry, had overlooked the xerox fact. this of course explains the quality of the images.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by werner geier
                  sorry, had overlooked the xerox fact. this of course explains the quality of the images.
                  Not to mention if it is being scanned on an older scanner you would have rastering. I have scanned perfectly legitimate photos and gotten rastering, checkering, discoloring.

                  If you have seen them before state the source and provide some clear reference instead of lose statements. Oh, I saw them in this collection....well, anyone could say that now couldnt they unless there is irrefutable proof you are just taking pot shots.

                  I for one have never seen this candid side of Hitler who seemed very fond of Ribbentrop's children. It seems the whole staff loved the kids being around. Interesting.

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                    #54
                    uhmm, lloyd? i hadnt read the thread properly (thus the misunderstanding with the xerox copies i apologised for), but so did you: i never claimed i had seen these pics before.

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                      #55
                      What an amazing find... truly interesting.

                      I hope that if some lucky paper collector here buys the album, they'll take the time to share some nicer scans of the photos. A simple way to make a bunch of people very happy

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                        #56
                        Kehlsteinhaus

                        Everyone,

                        There appears to be a photo of AH having lunch with Goebbels and others in the Kehlsteinhaus (Eagle's Nest) on the Obersalzberg. I had heard he only visited there a few times. I had never seen this photo before and for me, the most interesting of the lot.

                        Mike Heuer

                        Collecting mint condition Imperial German uniforms, visor caps, and Pickelhauben.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Mike Heuer
                          Everyone,

                          There appears to be a photo of AH having lunch with Goebbels and others in the Kehlsteinhaus (Eagle's Nest) on the Obersalzberg. I had heard he only visited there a few times. I had never seen this photo before and for me, the most interesting of the lot.

                          Mike Heuer
                          Hi Mike,

                          that******180;s true. To me also one of the most interesting photos in the series as Hitler has been in the Eagle******180;s Nest only a couple of times as he didn******180;t like it very much up there.

                          Anyway, the album was sold by my friend to a german collector (whom I don******180;t know) so it******180;s very doubtful that any photos will be posted here.
                          Sorry about that.

                          Cheers,

                          ustufvorwaerts
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                          silent leges et artes inter arma - im Waffenlärm schweigen die Gesetze und die Künste

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                            #58
                            Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

                            Oh well, I am sure it will come out who it is eventually. Thank you again for sharing..

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                              #59
                              ...that's a shame, was really hoping we'd see some more of those photos!

                              indeed

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by ustufvorwaerts
                                As this is the second opinion that these are copies I think it******180;s time to find some proof. So where or in which books can these "press photos" be found
                                There******180;s got to be a source when so many seem to have seen these photos before.

                                Thanks in advance,

                                ustufvorwaerts
                                ...
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                                "Hi everybody,
                                a friend of mine recently got a photo album from the secretary of von Ribbentrop. Album consists of approx. 400 photos in different sizes. All photos are supposed to be taken by her."


                                Many of these photos are to be found in the Ribbentrop Collection. They are official photos and not snap shots.
                                The photos in the Kehlsteinhaus are mostly from Hoffmann and were taken on official visits by various official guests (Prince Philipp of Hessen can be seen in one). I'm pretty sure (but can't be certain) that they were published in a soft cover magazine type photo book which I bought during my first visit to the Obersalzberg in 1985. Unfortunately, I have looked everywhere for it without any luck, but I'll keep looking. (I have found a book which has photos taken at the same time by Hoffmann and which are almost identical. "History of the Eagle's Nest" by Florian Beierl.)
                                If one carefully inspects the photos, one realises that the vast majority are official photos, most probably press photos that were not published at the time. Some were published at the time as Hoffmann press photocards.
                                No Ribbentrop secretary would have immediate access to Hitler, for instance when he was greeting diplomats or Heads of State, in order to take photos.
                                I'll repeat what I said earlier....they are nice images, but the album is a fake make-up.
                                Max.
                                Last edited by max history; 11-25-2005, 05:12 AM.

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