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    airgunner /radio badge for opinions please

    got this b&nl airgunner /radio badge like to have your opion please
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    airgunner

    moer foto's
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      #3
      airgunner b &nl

      last foto's
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        #4
        airgunner b &nl

        anybody ?

        i was told its a fake but till now o9n a german form they say its a good 1

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          #5
          Hi Ray,

          The rivets are definitely wrong. The hardware also looks very suspicious, but too blurry to see the details. The details of the eagle are also very weak on the obverse, and that is a classic sign of B&NL fakes.

          It may be a very worn original that has been repaired with new rivets, or it is a complete fake. Better pics will tell us for sure which it is.

          Tom
          If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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            gunners badge

            some more foto's my canon is broken so did this with my phone
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                #8
                I wouldnt be happy with this one, simply something doesnt seem right. Eagle and wreath looking bad to me, lacking in details, rivets are quite strange, if you already have bought this badge you should return it, otherwise pass on this one.
                Best regards,
                Franko

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                  #9
                  Not one i would go either.

                  Seb
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                    airgunner b &nl

                    oke guys on the german form they all said its good (till noe 5 respecable collectors) and they know thomas has his doubts , give some info what back up your comment " that you want it "easy to say , command like thomas gives is something we can learn from .

                    ray

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                      #11
                      Hi Ray,

                      I cannot imagine a "respected" collector saying these rivets are good in the other forums. Anyone remotely knowledgable about how original B&NL ROAG badges look like and how they were constructed should be able to tell these rivets are not correct. You should never see the rivets through the front of the eagle! Any collector that says this is original and 100% correct doesn't know what they are talking about.

                      Feel free to post this link to the German Forum.

                      Tom
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                      If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

                      New Book - The German Close Combat Clasp of World War II
                      [/SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
                      Available Now - tmdurante@gmail.com

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                        #12
                        Tom was faster than me... what he pointed out is clearly new rivets and it is never there with BNL.

                        Seb
                        The German Luftwaffe Pilot and Combined Pilot and Observer Badges of WWII 1933-1945
                        Volume I & Volume II


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