Please somebody explain to me how the badge that started this thread is a repro? I have two RK's in hand and the die flaws on each eagle are identical?
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This badge is nothing like the one that started the thread.Originally posted by Stepdale View PostComment
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Originally posted by Thomas Durante View Post
Catch has the stress lines, what do you need to see on the rivets (they are magnetic btw)? Picture came out overexposed on a low res setting so details are blurry, comes in at 27.65 grams, best, JComment
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Dimensions & weight of this new repro?Comment
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Important to address John's comments
Guys,
I feel kind of un-certain now?? Is this a repro or no? If you start at the beginning of the thread and review the info and take into account the new information John at germanwarbooty.com has provided and maybe we need to look closer??
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I just checked my records this was indeed a piece from an indirect vet source...Here is info from an email in May (name edited) to me:
The badge belonged to (edit name removed) ( my cohort in crime ) and was brought back to the U.S. after the war as a souvenir. It was his uncle who fought and luckily returned...
I know that vet stories can be made up and often are but I do not do that as I let the item speak on its own merits but if I do get an item from a vet or family source I will ad that to the description as it will help me remember where I got it from and also help serve as reference.
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Hi John,Originally posted by John T View Post
I didn't say the badge was a fake, only that there are some questionable aspects to it and some better pics of the hardware would tell us more. The eagle has some poor detail, but that could be due to wear. I like the bubbling on it, but hard to be sure because the pictures were really bright.
The other questionable areas I saw were the catch, it looks cast into the badge around the base. Rivets look loose too, so that is why I asked for some closeups and angled shots of the catch and hinge area.
TomIf it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a littleNew Book - The German Close Combat Clasp of World War II
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HI Tom,
The catch is not cast in but it is crimped in and I will provide a picture. Your opinion holds a lot of weight and if you express doubt about an item that is the kiss of death.
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That is why I didn't say it was a fake, but asked for better pics of the hardware first. We can only judge a badge from the pics provided.Originally posted by John T View Post
TomIf it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a littleNew Book - The German Close Combat Clasp of World War II
[/SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Available Now - tmdurante@gmail.com
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HI Tom,
I well understand, I will have consider a way to increese the resolution on my pictures...they are at low resolution due to page-load speed considerations, here are details of the catch and rivet area-
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Hi John,
Thanks for the closeups, they show the catch is crimped and not cast as originally suspected. The rivet closeups also look good to me. I think the badge is just fine, thanks for the new images.
TomIf it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a littleNew Book - The German Close Combat Clasp of World War II
[/SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Available Now - tmdurante@gmail.com
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Hi John,Originally posted by Thomas Durante View PostHi John,
Thanks for the closeups, they show the catch is crimped and not cast as originally suspected. The rivet closeups also look good to me. I think the badge is just fine, thanks for the new images.
Tom
I'm with Tom on this one of yours as he certainly far exceeds my level of expertise. For my thread about the original badge that started this thread, all I was trying to say was that there were enough subtle differences between the various original and doubtful? badges/eagles posted throughout the thread for someone like Tom to make a final call. Believe me, I'm just as confused and unsure as most of the rest of you about whether or not the first badge is an original or a "new" repro on the market. I'm hoping "they" (hint, that means you, Tom) say original as it may give me a better shot at getting one of these new Gablonz "variations" before they get too expensive!
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