Your opinion on gold LW Day Fighter Clasp with 500 Mission Rosette

[Frank Heukemes]

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[RPN]

Hi Adam

.... and in addition, the pendants are always in zinc, not 'buntmetal', as your clasp and pendant purport to be.

In 25 years I can't recall ever seeing anything other than Bomber and Recon clasps made by Juncker in buntmetal.

I hope you now have the evidence sufficient for a refund!!
Paul

[Frank Heukemes]

In 25 years I can't recall ever seeing anything other than Bomber and Recon clasps made by Juncker in buntmetal.

I fully support this and as you can see, my two Juncker examples are indeed Bomber and Recon clasps!

[Adam Lewis]

This is great!

Frank,
Thanks for posting these excellent images. I'll print them out side-by-side and take my case to AAG International. I'll provide updates to the Forum as they develop.
I've been collecting U.S. material for years but I'm pretty green in the German awards. Thanks very much for the help.
Adam

[CollectRussia]

AAG international... yeah that rings a bell ... Does this look familiar to anybody?

Description: Acquired on Feb. 22, 1945 when U-190 surrendered to the allies off of Canada. As taken by the RCN Officer off of the U-Boot 190

AAG has used this heading for a bazillion pieces of random crud they've auctioned on eBay over the past couple of years, from pots and pans to toenail clippers, back scratchers, tea pots, slippers, garden rakes, golf clubs, cigarette lighters of every variety and enough books to fill the NY Public Library.

You'd think after the third silver tea service AAG would be a little embarassed to continue with this lame marketing charade, or at least the public would realize that U-190 was not an underwater, travelling junk emporium with a reading room and a butler who served tea. But nooooooooo, they're still at it. I guess a hell of a lot of people just want to eat toast from a toaster that "was on a nazi submarine."

[François SAEZ]

Hi Adam
.... and in addition, the pendants are always in zinc, not 'buntmetal', as your clasp and pendant purport to be.
In 25 years I can't recall ever seeing anything other than Bomber and Recon clasps made by Juncker in buntmetal.
I hope you now have the evidence sufficient for a refund!!
Paul

Statment 1 (highlighted) is wrong IMO as early pendants (especially flowers) were buntmetal, I thought we had covered the subject and show pics.

But that does'nt make the clasp (first one posted) original

[Chris Boonzaier]

AAG international... yeah that rings a bell ... Does this look familiar to anybody?

Description: Acquired on Feb. 22, 1945 when U-190 surrendered to the allies off of Canada. As taken by the RCN Officer off of the U-Boot 190

AAG has used this heading for a bazillion pieces of random crud they've auctioned on eBay over the past couple of years, from pots and pans to toenail clippers, back scratchers, tea pots, slippers, garden rakes, golf clubs, cigarette lighters of every variety and enough books to fill the NY Public Library.

You'd think after the third silver tea service AAG would be a little embarassed to continue with this lame marketing charade, or at least the public would realize that U-190 was not an underwater, travelling junk emporium with a reading room and a butler who served tea. But nooooooooo, they're still at it. I guess a hell of a lot of people just want to eat toast from a toaster that "was on a nazi submarine."

I think I remember AAG being the original sellers of General baders items... then Don HoHo took over the cornucopia treasure chests. i am not sure if Don HoHo IS in fact AAG or if he just took over the farce.

[stogieman]

But François.....

... I distinctly remember you saying the pendants were zinc in a thread way long ago... Or was that strictly regarding the numbered pendants and not the flower?

[Chris Boonzaier]

I smell cigar smoke.... where the hell did that come from ????? Have not smelled that in months !!

[François SAEZ]

Well Cousin, Paul said pendants not numbered pendants, no?

[stogieman]

Thanks!!!

... the memory clouds with age....

[François SAEZ]

... the memory clouds with age....

... maybe I am wrong but I remember something with Jos, no???

[Larry Lipps]

My guess is that you'll be dead meat with AAG. These guys used to run the MAX auction, but because the attendence dropped off so much due to all the fake items, they moved on. I've just not heard many good things about them.

[Jos L C]

... maybe I am wrong but I remember something with Jos, no???

Yes...

I've a bomberclasp with pendant like the badge in question.
I've bought it in 1987,it was part of a group and as far as I know all other badges of that group were originals,so ,I've no doubts for the moment about mine.
It looks very much the same as the fighterclasp ,except it's a bomber and has remnants of fire gilding.

The pin ,clasp and pendant are all die-forged pieces.
Except from a different design I can't find anything strange about it...

This fighterclasp now and my bomber are the only 2 pieces I've seen sofar.

I agree that I've doubts about the Juncker mark and think it doesn't belong there.
Other than that I don't know what to think...
If fake ,why only 2 in all those years..?

Jos.

All I can do is post some pics here

[Jos L C]

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