Please someone show one in wear. If Klietmann is correct, it was signed into existence on Nov '44. As the Kurland CT was signed late in the war and created, this could conceivably have been created. But conceivably is one thing and a photo in wear is quite another. Without photos it's unfortunately just another Balloon Badge.
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This is one of the badges you've to reject.......outoff your mind this means..
No evidence till now..
BUT..,with a joint and a few glasses of whisky a badge like this really starts to live... in my case..., some people don't need anything at all to make it a keeper !
I'm kidding...,'cause I don't believe in miracles..
Seen them Pfleuger & Voss marked as well ,unfortunately as far as I know this firm didn't make badges..., some people though think they did..
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Good day gentlemen
I thought that I would share an image of an "award document" off a website that I found today, that concerns the award of a LW PAB in black.
I am EXTREMELY far from being near knowledgable on this badge.Comment
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interesting how kringlet the envelope is? but anyway ,,,what kind of tank is shown on original PAB's and what kind of tank is displayed with the LW PAB?Originally posted by TGComment
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Interesting
The letter says (roughly translated) 'out of concern to conserve paper[papiersparnis - a word I've never heard of - anybody here with EXCELLENT GErman language knowledge?], no Urkunde will be produced'. But we've all seen Urkunden, for all manner of items, produced up to and AFTER the wars end.
Just a thought.
HankUnless it was nighttime, or the weather was bad, and you were running out of gas - then it was a sweaty nightmare, like a monkey f*ing a skunk.
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No problem with "Papierersparnis", it's far from common but a 'valid' word and I have seen it being used multiple times. Signature does look very, very questionable though!
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Lw Pab
I´m having a slow evening, so just for kicks, some images of the above
discussed object. Have no fear, I know it´s post-war piece. But still,
with another catch and no L/58, it´s an interesting piece. I believe it´s
an early post-war Souval. Even the green verdigris is there.
KR
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They used a sheet of precious paper to tell someone that they're not issuing a certificate - so as to save a sheet of precious paper?Originally posted by hankmeister
Ummm...Comment
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"They used a sheet of precious paper to tell someone that they're not issuing a certificate - so as to save a sheet of precious paper?
Ummm..."
I just love that one
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Sorry, that didn´t work out too good
KR
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I bet the small box to the right of the pin contains L/58!Comment
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Bet all your money and you'll be a rich man
. Of course it's a Souval.
KR
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OK .. . Even though many German texts say this badge was around and many soldbuchs have listed the award so I would love to see your PROOF that these (especially mine posted) were post war ALL Souval post war pieces. The O'Sang photo examples have disappeared once I mentioned the period pieces were unmarked. I'll admit it's possible some were Souval post war pieces, but statements are easy. But Souval did not make mine.Originally posted by Peter J.Bet all your money and you'll be a rich man . Of course it's a Souval.
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My piece appears to be DIE STRUCT, not casted. Souval was NOT known for adding NEW hard die cast items after the war. They pumped out a ton of casted copies after the war, but this badge was NOT one of them.
Others must have one of these. There must be a few others around. I can't wait until another one pops up and someone points it out as a period piece. Because of published period photos of the award, though not on uniforms of actual soldiers, and soldbuchs, the piece MUST have existed. There are a few, not many but some are out there.Last edited by mott5ranch; 11-17-2004, 04:53 PM.Comment
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Hi Gary.
Since I'm quoted, I guess I'm the one you're addressing. I never made any
comments on the Osang badge, only some remarks about my own piece. The
giveaway on mine is the catch-plate and the L/58 in a small box.
KR
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