GAB Osang

[Erik Mott]

Here is one of the GABs from the box thread. I hope these pictures are better. This is a copy because Osang didn't make one. Anyone else have one to show for comparing. I sure wished it was good but my dad says it's a copy from the 70's most likely made in the UK.


Erik

[Erik Mott]

Here is the back.

[Erik Mott]

Close up pictures are realy hard to do but I still try.
Erik

[Chet Sowersby]

Gentlemen, is this GAB a accepted fake? I have a couple of what I presume to be good GAB's that look not too much better in regu
ards to detail. Is it accepted that Osang did not make GAB's? Did this badge orginate out of England in the eighties? The pictured badge appears to be flat. Is that a issue? Anyone out there that can give some insight?

Best wishes, Chet

[skip]

Your Dad is right Erik, this is also a repop.
Chet it is not that the badge is flat, there are lots of good, flat GABs out there. Look at the strangled chicken like head and the totally wrong mark for the Osang company.

Skip

[mads]

to add to Skips comment is the lack of the end of the lower swastika arm.
plus the eaglehead looks a bit strange in itself.

Mads

[Chet Sowersby]

OK guys, I can go with what you said. Thank you for the replys.

Chet

[skip]

Just to build this out a little further,

Mads, I think that the bottom half of the Swaz. is in fact there, it just seems to be covered in crud or something.
Also you cannot always say that a badge is bad just because a part is missing, we have seen many examples of badges here were a part from the obverse was missing, last example was my ÜÜ PAB with clipped Swaz. and Anthony stated that he also had an example, so this did happen.
Also a lot of us count on exactly such smaill die defects to determine originality of a piece.

Heres another example of a badge that slipped through the QC.
I´m convinced that its real, but what happened to this guys head

Skip

[Erik Mott]

Maybe it was good and somebody dropped something on it and broke it. Just a maybe.

Erik

[skip]

Hi Erik,

thats a good theory yes.
Erik, these badges are die stamped, that means you lay a oval piece of metal (blank) into a die with the image of the badge you want to make engraved into it. You then excert great pressure onto the die, a couple of tons at least you need, when you open the die the engraving from the die is mirror imaged onto the piece of metal.
Sometimes the guys doing this maybe did´nt lay the blank into the die totally flat and the whole image was a bit smudged.
I can tell that this is a slipped blank by the cut directly below the eagles beak, can you see how it sort of cuts the beak in half?
this also causes the rest of the image to be a little smudgy.

I´m not to good at explaining this so let me show you a pic of this guy before he was beaten up.

Skip

[Erik Mott]

Thanks Mr. Skip! I see what you meen.

WOW, you get a BUNCH of pictures in one reply and they are close ups too! I gotta learn how to do that. but not today. I gotta take out the trash and do some other stuff now.

Erik

[mads]

Skip.
What do you mean by a ÜÜ bagde?
Is it the maker?
I have a very nice GAB with the same characteristics as you, do you know which maker it is?

[mads]

also note that the top above the hinge has been "beaten up".

[skip]

Hi Mads,

I ment the Wernstein PAB with beat up Swaz that I showed a couple of days ago.
I can write ÜÜ with my german keyboard but I mean Wernstein.

Skip