800 Silver Juncker Pilot Badge

[Bob Hritz]

Well, when I bought that wonderful badge collection, there was one piece that was not for sale. I finally managed to get it, for my own collection. I was never positive about these, but with Detlev Niemann declaring their originality, I feel much safer.

The case is the most unusual. It is almost black, in color with a deep purple-black velver, for the badge, and black rayon lid lining. I have posted this case on the cases forum.

I know everyone doesn't like these, but I am tickled pink. Also, the fact that I bought it reasonably makes it easier to like. Unfortunately, the name that was scratched on the reverse has been obliterated. I am pleased and that is all that counts.

Bob Hritz

[Bob Hritz]

Obverse in case. I have chased this badge for over 20 years and finally it is home. I was never fully comfortable until Detlev niemann declared they are original.

Bob Hritz

[Bob Hritz]

Verso. You can see where my friend had it silver tested, on the wing that is to the viewers right.

[Bob Hritz]

I tried to carefully remove the base, but ended up marring the case. I could hear cracking glue, but did not want to do further damage.

Bob Hritz

[skip]

Whats written on the lid Bob?

Skip

[Bob Hritz]

Lid

[Bob Hritz]

Detail

[TMurray]

Well, when I bought that wonderful badge collection, there was one piece that was not for sale. I finally managed to get it, for my own collection. I was never positive about these, but with Detlev Niemann declaring their originality, I feel much safer.

The case is the most unusual. It is almost black, in color with a deep purple-black velver, for the badge, and black rayon lid lining. I have posted this case on the cases forum.

I know everyone doesn't like these, but I am tickled pink. Also, the fact that I bought it reasonably makes it easier to like. Unfortunately, the name that was scratched on the reverse has been obliterated. I am pleased and that is all that counts.

Bob Hritz

Hi Bob, is DN the only one to give these the thumbs up? I thought they were 'jeweller's copies' or such?

[Brian S]

You're just all controversy today aren't you Bob! Lot's of emotion on these. We'll never know but at the chance they turn out in an undisputed set with provenance you've got a very rare bird. Again, I think worth the risk. Once you've got all the textbook, where you going to go? There's always Beanie Babies

[andrewb]

Bob, I too am lucky enough to own one of these rare beauties. Although still on lay away, I will be getting my hands on it in the next 2 weeks. Here is the link to photos of mine.
http://www.emedals.ca/catalog.asp?item=GRL329

It was discussed on this forum back in 2003 when Skip owned it. If you have not yet done so, do a search on: J1 800. Its very interesting reading.

AB.

[R. Schmitt]

Holy smokes, both of your silver Pilots are smoking hot, I love them .
Whatever the controversy, they're true beauties. there'll always be pieces that will never be proven to be original nor copies, and there'll always be a market for the believers who don't mind the controversy about them.

[andrewb]

Very true Rainer. I don't mind the controversy infact I enjoy it and of course I'm a believer in these badges. Not textbook of course, being silver, safety catch etc but to me a pre 45 badge.

AB.

[Scott C.]

Just curious, how do the measurements of the 800 badge compare with it's tombac counterpart?

Scott

[jambobbyb]

I seem to remember reading that silver pilots badges were given to RK winners has anyone else come across this explanation before? Nice looking award!

[François B.]

But why are the stamped three times 800?
One stamp would be enough....
Just a thought........