Tombak B&NL RO/AG Opinions

[VonStigler1]

Hi Guys,
I have recently acquired a nice early B&NL tombak ro/ag that has been repaired. Looks as though it was a de-nazified badge at some point and then had the swastika replaced. Not a bad repair but the swas is a little thicker than normal. A nice piece none the less. So my question is.....what is it worth? I already have one of these in my collection so I will be selling this on the e-stand. I really don't know what to ask for it...I was thinking roughly half of the going price = $300. What do you think?
Regards, Brian

[VonStigler1]

Rev

[johannes post]

let's start again !

a fake one in my opinion !

regards johan

please see the attatchment of a originel
and look too the difference.

[Lorenzo Brown]

let's start again !

a fake one in my opinion !

regards johan

please see the attatchment of a originel
and look too the difference.

Hi Johan. Brian's badge looks like an original with repairs to me. Can you be more specific as to why you think its fake?

[johannes post]

my pleasure zorro !

if you look too the front of the eagle and you see then not the difference between a good one and the one from stigler .
is it a good one with that mutch modification i call it than a fake.

you can buy that one np for me.
if you think it is originel.

regards johan

[johannes post]

that would't be a great threaht.
when is a piece a fake .

regards johan

[VonStigler1]

Hi Johan,
If you are referring to the adler's talons as being different than an original badge than you are correct. It would appear that whatever was used to remove the swastika also touched the talons and the bottom right blitz, giving them a flat appearance. Other than that I cannot find any differences when compared to my other original.(other than the obvious repair) Even the weights are within a gram, measurements will have to wait as I don't have my calipers with me.
Regards, Brian

[johannes post]

brian

that is my point !
youre abzeichen is denazified afther the war.
then it is repaired is it than fair too call it a originel badge.
some people do !
i think it isn't.
a originel badge is in my opinion a originel, no modified badge

regards johan

[VonStigler1]

Well now you are getting technical with words but a few posts back you said it was a fake. A fake badge in my opinion---not original, never was original, a copy of an original. This badge is a repaired original, as stated in my initial post.
Regards, Brian

[johannes post]

are we getting a littlebit angry
i have problems with the english language,and be
happy that there are still european collecters
who dosn't speak/writh english that want too contribute in this forum.
if you do not like my opinion no problem ,good luck with youre sale then .

kind regards johan

Well now you are getting technical with words but a few posts back you said it was a fake. A fake badge in my opinion---not original, never was original, a copy of an original. This badge is a repaired original, as stated in my initial post.
Regards, Brian

[ben bijker]

johan,

I don't see why you call it a fake either.
It is a nice original with a repaired swas.

no matter how good or bad your english is, "fake" is one of the first words you learn in this forum, and no matter what language you were raised in, EVERY collector knows what it means.

Ben

[VonStigler1]

johan,

I don't see why you call it a fake either.
It is a nice original with a repaired swas.

no matter how good or bad your english is, "fake" is one of the first words you learn in this forum, and no matter what language you were raised in, EVERY collector knows what it means.

Ben

My thoughts exactly. Back to the original (no pun intended) reason for this thread....opinions on value welcomed.
Regards, Brian

[johannes post]

quote =
" is it a good one with that mutch modification i call it than a fake"
ik hoop ben dat je nu begrijpt wat ik bedoel ,en die kleinerende reactie van jou .

mvg johan

johan,

I don't see why you call it a fake either.
It is a nice original with a repaired swas.

no matter how good or bad your english is, "fake" is one of the first words you learn in this forum, and no matter what language you were raised in, EVERY collector knows what it means.

Ben

[VonStigler1]

Another train wreck. I understand there is a language barrier here but the topic of this thread was to get opinions on what this badge is worth to the collecting community, not wether it is fair to call it an original or not. I know everyone is tired of these "how much" threads but those who know me will agree that I don't usually ask, and i don't usually sell. I know the current value of most war badges, but I wanted to be fair with pricing for this "modified" piece. Obviously this badge is worth nothing to Johan and I'm fine with that. It is not a "fake" by any stretch of the imagination in any language, however, and that statement should be corrected. I have also incorrectly labeled a badge fake before and then admitted that I was wrong and learned from it. I didn't attempt to change the definition of the word "fake", "original", or anything else to backpedal out of my mistake. I am through with this and won't be posting here anymore.
Regards, Brian

[ben bijker]

quote =
" is it a good one with that mutch modification i call it than a fake"
ik hoop ben dat je nu begrijpt wat ik bedoel ,en die kleinerende reactie van jou .

mvg johan

Johan,

- apparently you have the right to call a de-nazified badge a fake
because to you it is a fake (?)
- after you have pissed off someone else's badge by calling it a fake (which it is not) you hide behind your lack of knowledge of the english language.
To me that is like "Hey, I can post whatever I want and you can't blame me for it because I have problems with the english language".....

I tried to bring it gently, because I think it's a pretty lame excuse.
I wasn't trying to belittle you, but replied to your own reaction!

I you can't stand critisism, don't critisize.....

Regards,
Ben

Johan,
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<!--[if !supportLists]-->-<!--[endif]-->blijkbaar heb jij het recht om een gede-nazificeerde badge
namaak te noemen omdat het voor jou namaak is.


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Voor mij is dat “h******233;, ik kan posten wat ik wil, en je kunt het me niet kwalijk nemen
want ik heb problemen met de engelse taal “….
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Ik heb geprobeerd het voorzichtig te brengen, maar ik vind het een zwak excuus.
Ik was je ook niet aan het kleineren, het zijn je eigen woorden.
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Als je geen kritiek kunt verdragen, moet je het ook niet uiten.
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Groeten,
Ben