"Claw" foot B&NL Flak

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I mentioned a few threads back that I was in posession of a claw foot flak that fitted all the design aspects of a B&NL.

This caused some disbelieve so I finally got around to picking it up and doing some pics.

For your deliberation and comments, the "claw" foot B&NL Flak.

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[Lorenzo Brown]

These flak "claw" badges are fairly new to me but they are fascinating.
The badge you show looks very good to me. I see no problems with it.

PS...I wonder what the weight and dimensions are compared to the B&NL flak "without claw"?

[Frank Heukemes]

"Regular" B&NL Flak:

32,3 grams
57,5 mm height of wreath
61,9 mm height together with eagle
44,8 mm width

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"Regular" B&NL Flak:

32,3 grams
57,5 mm height of wreath
61,9 mm height together with eagle
44,8 mm width

"Claw" Flak

34,3grms
57,6mm
66,3mm! measured to top of eagles left wing and bottom wreath band
44,6mm

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[Jos L C]

Nice badge..

Eagle looks a bit like a muppet though,I like it..

Jos.

[Frank Heukemes]

Pics of the regular one to compare. I am still a bit freaked out about teh "new" series of B&NL Flak badges. The type I have used to be superrare with only about 5 known ones around in the internet world. Now, within a relatively short time range three of the new type appear, for the first time, as far as I can tell. Possible, but weird. The connection of the obverse design of the claw examples to the high end fake is scary, but not neccessarily damning. I also cannot see anything realls wrong with them from Skip's pics, but I remain suspicious.

[Frank Heukemes]

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[Frank Heukemes]

eagle

[Frank Heukemes]

a characteristic B&NL finish

[Frank Heukemes]

mark, spot on

[Frank Heukemes]

eagle is quite delicate, shows shear marks and breakage.

[Frank Heukemes]

hinge, same as on Skip's badge

[Frank Heukemes]

catch, same as Skip's

[robert60446]

Pics of the regular one to compare. I am still a bit freaked out about teh "new" series of B&NL Flak badges. The type I have used to be superrare with only about 5 known ones around in the internet world. Now, within a relatively short time range three of the new type appear, for the first time, as far as I can tell. Possible, but weird. The connection of the obverse design of the claw examples to the high end fake is scary, but not neccessarily damning. I also cannot see anything realls wrong with them from Skip's pics, but I remain suspicious.

Guys,
As Frank pointed out, there are many common points between these two badges on their reverse side. However just looking at the obverse details, one can clearly see the differences. I’m attaching picture with 4 the most obvious ones (from the eagle alone!). Yes, I know B&NL could have more then 1 die for eagles…but (and please correct if I’m wrong) most of the time even with many dies in use, you should still be able to see many common points…right? And i don't see many common points on eagles here...<o =""></o>