Cloth E-Boat badge, big and ugly

[Norm F]

Not to belabor this further but, as I mentioned before, there’s controversy about Bacqueville badges as well.

At least for the idiosyncratic "French-made" (formerly "Bacqueville") zincers there are several separate examples from U.S. vets with probable (if unverifiable) anecdotes of being brought back from France post-war, and they're known in the memories of mainstream collectors as far back as 1970. Also they're often with consistent packaging that fits with the theory of unofficial, unissued stock.

In contrast, these unofficial oversized cloth patches, all similarly "aged and worn" are turning up in quantity in the last year or two, predominantly in the U.K. So on careful consideration and comparison, these are not analogous scenarios, and I expect a "belief poll" on these would yield very different numbers from those seen on the "Bacqueville" poll.

Best regards,
---Norm

[TP Alexander]

At least for the idiosyncratic "French-made" (formerly "Bacqueville") zincers there are several separate examples from U.S. vets with probable (if unverifiable) anecdotes of being brought back from France post-war, and they're known in the memories of mainstream collectors as far back as 1970. Also they're often with consistent packaging that fits with the theory of unofficial, unissued stock.

In contrast, these unofficial oversized cloth patches, all similarly "aged and worn" are turning up in quantity in the last year or two, predominantly in the U.K. So on careful consideration and comparison, these are not analogous scenarios, and I expect a "belief poll" on these would yield very different numbers from those seen on the "Bacqueville" poll.

Best regards,
---Norm

Damn Norm, I just love those five and six syllable words. What makes it even better is that you are using them in the proper context!!
Tim

[münster]

At least for the idiosyncratic "French-made" (formerly "Bacqueville") zincers there are several separate examples from U.S. vets with probable (if unverifiable) anecdotes of being brought back from France post-war, and they're known in the memories of mainstream collectors as far back as 1970. Also they're often with consistent packaging that fits with the theory of unofficial, unissued stock.

In contrast, these unofficial oversized cloth patches, all similarly "aged and worn" are turning up in quantity in the last year or two, predominantly in the U.K. So on careful consideration and comparison, these are not analogous scenarios, and I expect a "belief poll" on these would yield very different numbers from those seen on the "Bacqueville" poll.

Best regards,
---Norm

All the cloth badges shown on the thread seem to have the same aging, especially to the backing.

[Norm F]

Norm I see at least a couple of these at every UK fair, usually with cloth HSF next to them.

Fleet badge. Ireland.

[Norm F]

and another from the UK.

[Norm F]

another example of the S-Boat, identically "worn and tunic-removed" as all the others.