Destroyer Badge Help

[theepiphanynow]

Hello,

I found this for sale today and I need some help to determine the authenticity as I don't have very extensive knowledge in kriegsmarine badges. I found one out there on the internet by this same maker and most things look good on this, however it looks so good, that I am worried about this one being a possible repro.

As always, any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!

[BubbaZ]

Hi Jeremiah,
Enclosed there is my JFS destroyer which I consider to be a textbook example, although in worn condition.
In your badge the obverse details are fine and the finish alike. On the reverse the main pin looks a bit to thin - usualy is thicker and feature sharp ending (your is dull). There are only remnants of a hinge base but it looks like a manufacturing defect. These are very minor issues though. What is the weight of it? Maybe I am getting paranoic but can you see if the catch and upper pin are realy crimped and not only pretend crimping as I cannot notice it from these pics?
If above is ok, which I belive is true, then you have original JFS Destroyer in very nice condition IMO

Cheers,
Hubert



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[Alex K.]

The badge shown by theepiphanynow is a fake in my opinion. It´s a casting.

[mrg]

Not the best of pictures but going off those NOT one I would like. Regards

[BubbaZ]

Might be casted copy (remnants of hinge base may indicate so) but better pictures of the reverse and dimensions would be helpful. I think that condemning this badge basing on such pictures is unfair.
Here is another example to compare.
Cheers,
Hubert

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[theepiphanynow]

I will try to get the dimensions and some better pics from the seller. So far, these were the only 2 pics that he sent me.

[Nordmark]

A Staegemeir fake...

[theepiphanynow]

Well it sounds like there is more negative feedback on this piece than I had really hoped for, so I believe I will stay away from it. Thanks again to everyone for all the help!

[Militaria-Berlin]

A Staegemeir fake...

Without a doubt. Just look at the surface of the reverse!

MB

[theepiphanynow]

I would like to thank everyone for their help, opinions, and comparison photos. It is all very much appreciated.

Sincerely,

Jeremiah

[BubbaZ]

I have no doubts at this point too, it must be a cast fake.
But Staegemeir can make it even better than this. Look at the JFS destroyer posted by John here:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...stroyer&page=2
Finish seems very similiar as in the badge that started this thread.
One could get burnt by such quite easily.
Regards,
Hubert

[BubbaZ]

What do you guys say about that? Cast fake JFS Destroyer masterpiece! Even better than original
Regards,
Hubert



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[mrg]

Hi Hubert thats a very good copy but there are still tell tale signs that shoud nt be listed on here. All the best

[Nordmark]

I honestly don´t know what to make of the last badge shown here. I think that it might be good, but this one should be examined in hand.



Regards,



Daniel

[AndyC]

I am with Nordmark here, the last badge post here have a good chance to be good
Dont forget that belive it or not Steagemeir sometimes sells some good originals also


Andy