Submarine clasp

[frank]

I finally got the couple (Bronze and silver)!
Both are in zinc and very similar, colour apart.
Same producer too!
Your comments?

[W. C. Stump]

I finally got the couple (Bronze and silver)!
Both are in zinc and very similar, colour apart.
Same producer too!
Your comments?

These are nice and scarce items. Especially the Silver Grade. I was fortunate to acquire mine early, but the documents for the Silver grade was a hard one to find and is rarer than the clasp itself.

[frank]

my silver

Here is my silver grade!

[Frank Heukemes]

Ciao, Franco!

Nice clasps. Regarding the producer comment: you will not find these made by anybody else but Schwerin!

Cheers, Frank

[frank]

Frank H

Hei it's Francesco and not Franco!
I think I just registred myself few months earlier than you and I got the exclusivity for the nick name Frank!
Beside that joke, I have a question fo you:
given that the two badges look really identical, what was the poduction technique used to distinguish the two level.
I guess that they simply painted the two with different colours?!?

[Frank Heukemes]

Exactly, Francesco, the difference is solamente in the finish.

Cheers, Frank

[John T]

I recently saw a new fake of the sub clasp. It was not like the old quality fakes that were made from a better medal then the originals and had the oversize hook and incorrect letters....this new fake was in a metal that looked like zinc!! and had the correct pin of course, but the pin was in brass complete with acid residue from aging...this fake I saw was very dangerous and convincing but I was unable to photograph it to compare with known originals....naturally it was not being sold as a fake..

John

[John T]

ps...nice pieces Frank

[Michel]

Frank,

My comments are : 'the bronze claps is not yours...'

Michel

[PaulR]

Did these badges have the same pins and catches?

[frank]

You are right, just picked up from my archive the wrong pic!
Here is the right one!
Cheers