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**Thomas Durante** · 03-03-2018, 10:54 AM

Looks like an original 1st Pattern JFS clasp, but not in the best condition.

Unless its really cheap, I would suggest waiting for another. JFS clasps are pretty common, and usually found with most of their finish remaining so it wouldn't be hard to find a better one that you will be happier with.

Tom

**Tom Yanacek** · 03-03-2018, 10:58 AM

Hi Nigel,

Just based on the picture of the front, it looks like an original second-pattern JFS Close Combat Clasp. But heavily worn and corroded to the extent that parts of the clasp along the bottom, to the right of center, have been completely eaten away. In this condition it is not worth too much so I wouldn't buy it unless it is very cheap.

Best regards,
Tom

**kalamees** · 03-03-2018, 11:02 AM

Thanks Tom, the rear is worse so I will miss on this one, thank you for your help. Nigel

**kalamees** · 03-03-2018, 11:12 AM

I forgot to say he is asking £250 for it !!!!

**Tom Yanacek** · 03-03-2018, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Thomas Durante View Post

Looks like an original 1st Pattern JFS clasp

Hi Tom,

Are you sure that this is a first-pattern JFS? I would almost (almost mind you) be willing to bet that this is a second-pattern clasp. What are you basing your opinion on? I know they are very similar from the front, but not exactly. Are you judging by the finish? I wish we could see the reverse of this one.

Best regards,
Tom

**Tom Yanacek** · 03-03-2018, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by kalamees View Post

I forgot to say he is asking £250 for it !!!!

Hi Nigel,

You should be able to get a really nice one for that price.

Best regards,
Tom

**Thomas Durante** · 03-04-2018, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by Tom Yanacek View Post

Hi Tom,

Are you sure that this is a first-pattern JFS? I would almost (almost mind you) be willing to bet that this is a second-pattern clasp. What are you basing your opinion on? I know they are very similar from the front, but not exactly. Are you judging by the finish? I wish we could see the reverse of this one.

Best regards,
Tom

Hi Tom,

Basing it on the bayonet guard, typically 1st Pattern are squared off like we see here whereas 2nd Pattern have a champferrd edge. It’s not a golden rule, but true 90% of the time. I am playing the odds

Tom

**Giel VW** · 03-04-2018, 12:36 PM

Good clasp Nigel, but in this condition price seems pretty high...

**kalamees** · 03-04-2018, 02:11 PM

Thanks guys, I think that you are right it is too much money, the JFS is on the left hand side to the rear. I have the picture but it fails to up load, if you saw it you would not like it as it is corroded badly. I will buy something else

**Tom Yanacek** · 03-04-2018, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by Thomas Durante View Post

Basing it on the bayonet guard, typically 1st Pattern are squared off like we see here whereas 2nd Pattern have a champferrd edge. It’s not a golden rule, but true 90% of the time. I am playing the odds

Thanks, Tom.

Best regards,
Tom

**Tom Yanacek** · 03-04-2018, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by kalamees View Post

the JFS is on the left hand side to the rear.

Hi there,

Thanks for clearing that up.

It is a first-pattern clasp as Tom D said.

Best regards,
Tom

**wdnguyen** · 03-04-2018, 07:06 PM

QUOTE=Thomas Durante;8100322]Looks like an original 1st Pattern JFS clasp, but not in the best condition.

Unless its really cheap, I would suggest waiting for another. JFS clasps are pretty common, and usually found with most of their finish remaining so it wouldn't be hard to find a better one that you will be happier with.

Tom[/QUOTE]

Hi Tom,

I thought JFS 1st pattern is rare. May be you mean the second pattern JS that is more common ?

Could you clarify ?

Thanks,

Will

**Thomas Durante** · 03-05-2018, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by Tom Yanacek View Post

Hi there,

Thanks for clearing that up.

It is a first-pattern clasp as Tom D said.

Best regards,
Tom

**Thomas Durante** · 03-05-2018, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by wdnguyen View Post

Hi Tom,

I thought JFS 1st pattern is rare. May be you mean the second pattern JS that is more common ?

Could you clarify ?

Thanks,

Will

Hi Will,

In general, JFS clasps are pretty common to find. First Pattern clasps are indeed more uncommon to find than the 2nd pattern, but they are around and I wouldn't call them rare. They are just a bit more uncommon to find in comparison to 2nd pattern examples.

Tom

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