CCC in Gold

[mdj]

I came across this Nahkampfspange in Gold. Very desirable, but also risky business.

It looks like it has some identical characteristics (plate/catch/hinge) with the CCC pictured in Niemanns Reference guide.

What do you think of it based on this pictures?

Martin

[Don D.]

Straight on shots in natural light would help.

[mmiller]

As Don said, we are going to need some really perfect photography to analize this badge. The difference between a real Presentation Nahkampfspange and a high end fake is difficult to spot. We will want close ups of everything, too! Hinge, catch, rivet, obverse eagle, etc.

Regards,
Mark

[mdj]

I have asked for better pictures...

[Ludwig]

Extremly good fakes of this type exist, so we need much better pictures.

[mdj]

CCC Gold

I have got some "better" pictures of the CCC Gold I posted earlier in this tread:

( I've merged your threads for better reference. Don)

I hope you can make something out of this one??

Best
Martin

[Ludwig]

It sure looks promissing, but better pictures are needed.
I have seen REALLY good fakes of this clasp!

[jacques]

Hi,
I agree with Ludwig, it looks promising and I like it but better close up are needed.

jacques

[tinmantis]

I'm a zero expert on these, but it looks like the leaves are frosted, is that correct?
I have an example, but it's waaaaay from even 5% finish left!
regards
jon

[mdj]

Thanks for some comments.

Today I got 2 new pictures....Still no good and sharp ones from the front of the Clasp and some details...

I hope some good characteristics can be seen from this angle...So, I can decide if its worth for buying or not..

Martin

[wh014d4394]

after 60 OD years the gold would be faded this has bean refinished that's for sure. just my 2 cents

[Indy]

it doesn't look like a zinc badge, but its hinge and catch are for zinker. I feel kind of strange.....

KR
Indy

[Porsche]

There are some subtle differences to the known original pictured in Michaelis's book, like the shape of the pin and the setting around the hinge and catch . But I wouldn't worry about the colour, I've got a Tombac GWB which has a similar finish, and these Gold CCC's were special presentation items, so would tend to be kept safe rather than worn . Depending on the price, I think I'd probably take the risk, (but only after seeking the advice of the experts)
Cheers,

Neil

[George L]

Jimmy, these style CCC's were not made in zinc; so it's not surprising that they've held up well like gilt on the minty Schwerin U boats, or GWL P/O badges.

[mmiller]

Presentation Nahkampfspangen were ONLY made in Tombak. They WERE frosted and HAD polished highlights. This piece has a very good chance of being authentic. For me, the details of the hinge, pin, and catch are critical.

An old Militaria Magazine (issue #100) had a great article on this Badge. Three variations exist. Based on the Obverse Die, and the type of catch, I would say this piece is the number two style.

I will need to compare these images with a known example, of which I happen to have one, before making a final decision.

Regards,
Mark

Lots of good reading in the search function: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...earchid=738609