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    #31
    Morning Scott,

    Thanks for posting your badges. Your Seconde badge (12,22 grams) is also a Cupal badge. Very similar wear pattern as the one posted by Dan. Also notive the remains of the "nipple" on the rear of the gun barrel.

    On the other two I would agree that both of them are zinkers. Just noticed the catchplate on that badge. Also something I wasn't familiar with. Just recnetly another Assmann with a different shape of catchplate was posted. Any more Assmanns with catchplates out there?

    Scott could you post exact measurements of your zinkers. Please take the width on the furthest sticking out panzer track point.

    Robert you were probably refering to my cut-out grass Assmann. Even with the cut-out grass it still comes in at 16,85. A part of that weight certainly can be explained by the generous use of solder on the hinge

    KR
    Philippe
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        #33
        Originally posted by Philippe DB
        Robert you were probably refering to my cut-out grass Assmann. Even with the cut-out grass it still comes in at 16,85. A part of that weight certainly can be explained by the generous use of solder on the hinge
        Thanks Phil! With no grass (almost 25% of the badge surface is gone) and we still got 16.85 g...I asked for it, because now we can see that loosing 5 grams means really a lot. Probably it would take to cut out the whole tank and eagle as well to get to the 12 g range...

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          #34
          Hi guys,
          Thanks to Scott who was nice enough to mail his light weight Assmann to me, i may have an explanation for this light weight. IMO narrower sheet of zinc was used for die strike (please see my picture – Scott’s badge is first from top – these 2 pictures were taken from exactly the same distance). This could also be explanation for weak die strike. Press couldn’t go deeper because it would destroy material inside the press die (and probably die as well) so operator limited press stroke. This of course caused weaker detailing on the badge. For sure it is 100% original badge (exactly the same hinge with the same marks as on my zinker, even rivet in the hinge is with extra material sticking out on the right side!!!).
          Ps. Thanks Scott for opportunity to see your badge with my own eyes.
          Last edited by robert60446; 04-07-2007, 06:25 AM.

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            #35
            Robert is that the badge in thread#24?

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              #36
              Originally posted by VonLuger
              Robert is that the badge in thread#24?
              Jeff,
              Yes, i'm sorry i forgot to post this badge again...

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                #37
                Just curious, does the top half of the badge have normal zink thickness-detail seems normal?? maybe a lopeside hunk of zink?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by VonLuger
                  Just curious, does the top half of the badge have normal zink thickness-detail seems normal?? maybe a lopeside hunk of zink?
                  Jeff,
                  The upper part of badge is not as thick as “normal” badges as well. It is little better then middle of badge, but still not what you can see on other zinc Assmann's.
                  Last edited by robert60446; 04-07-2007, 06:25 AM.

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                    #39
                    As the freaked out new owner of the zinker shown in post #29 & 30, I figure I would add to the thread.

                    The badge weighs 12.0 gms

                    Its width (at the track) is 41.99

                    and the height is 60.33


                    Al






                    Originally posted by Philippe DB
                    Morning Scott,...



                    Scott could you post exact measurements of your zinkers. Please take the width on the furthest sticking out panzer track point....



                    KR
                    Philippe

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                      #40
                      Assmann with weights

                      Here are my "Assmenn" with weights...all in the upper range.

                      Tony
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                        #41
                        Dear Robert,

                        Very interesting and this easely explains the weight difference.

                        This very well could have been the way they saved material. On average these badges are 5 grams lighter then the thicker Assmann. For every 1000 badges they were able to save 5 kilo's or about 29,41% of zinc.

                        Or instead of 1000 they could have made 1294 badges with the same ammount of material, not bad huh.

                        KR
                        Philippe
                        Last edited by Philippe DB; 07-14-2006, 04:55 AM.

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                          #42
                          I maybe a bit late in picking this up but on my electronic RCBS reloading scales, my silver 'A' PAB weighs in at 18.31 grams.

                          Regards ...

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Philippe DB
                            This very well could have been the way they saved material. On average these badges a 5 grams lighter then the thicker Assmann. For every 1000 badges they were able to save 5 kilo's or about 29,41% of zinc.

                            Or instead of 1000 they could have made 1294 badges with the same ammount of material, not bad huh.
                            Dear Phil,
                            Exactly! I agree with this in 100%.

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                              #44
                              My zinc hollow Assmann weighs 17.62 grams.

                              Bob Hritz
                              In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

                              Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Bob Hritz
                                My zinc hollow Assmann weighs 17.62 grams.

                                Bob Hritz
                                Bob,
                                This is in perfect line with "normal" Assmann "zinkers"...

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