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    Honor Goblet

    This is a repeat thread to a question Mathias Zimmer had posted over a year ago with no responses. I was looking around the net concerning honor goblets and found a source that stated there were 50,000 honor goblets "bestowed", but only 14,000 actually awarded. This would make the honor goblet actually less common than an RK, if we are to beleive that despite 7,400 awarded there were duplicates to make about 15,000-20,000 RKs. Any thougths?

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    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/hono...blet/first.htm

    the position of the award compare to a RK is to consider, the fact it is a non portable award, the purpose of the reward (one being specially for the LW) ............. to compare them, IMO, is like comparing bananas and oranges: the purpose of those rewards is distinct (you can have one without having the other)
    Collection : http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=807895

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      #3
      More Goblets

      Gentlemen,

      Interesting question. Although I can not add anything new to this discussion, I thought I would add this picture....

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        #4
        Originally posted by Michael Everett
        Gentlemen,

        Interesting question. Although I can not add anything new to this discussion, I thought I would add this picture....
        Thank you for the responses gentlemen. I agree that these awards are difficult to compare in their official award capacity, however, I believe relative scarcity of the award can be discussed. It seems as though 14,000 is a relatively small number and would reflect somewhat the relative value of this award. Also, does anyone have any comments regarding the plated nuesilber version vs the 835 silver? I would think the durability of the earlier 835 silver would be much greater and make this more appealing from a collector standpoint.

        Nice goblets, Michael. Are they earlier or late versions? To whom are they awarded? Thanks

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          #5
          my contribution
          Last edited by François SAEZ; 08-31-2008, 05:52 AM.
          Collection : http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=807895

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            #6
            Tom,

            The goblets pictured consist of:

            Feldwebel Rudolf Trenkel JG52 RK, ALPAKA.
            LT Rudolf Pflanz JG2 RK, 835.
            LT Karl-Heinz Stepp RK W/OL, 835.
            WW1 Silver Honor Goblet not 'named' of course but, I have the flight log and personal photos.

            I have always considered the Luftwaffe Honor Goblet as the most interesting Third Reich 'award'. Given that each Goblet has it's own 'personality', you can never own to many!
            MIKE

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              #7
              Originally posted by François SAEZ
              my contribution
              Damn! Those are nice collections, guys! I agree that this award is very appealing visually and has the added interest of being personalized. I need to read more about these awards and will consider this for the next award I will seek. Thanks

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                #8
                WOW,

                That is a lot of goblets
                DaveJ

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by François SAEZ
                  my contribution
                  Nice goblets! I was trolling the internet and cound one on collectors guild. Would you guys mind taking a look? Does the price seem reasonable? Thanks

                  http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Luftw...os/L08850.html

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                    #10
                    There's an Alpaka on the e-Stand right now for considerably less.

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=58313
                    George

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by George Stimson
                      There's an Alpaka on the e-Stand right now for considerably less.

                      http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=58313
                      Thanks George-

                      Are the 835 awards usually priced higher than the alpaka goblets? Thanks

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                        #12
                        "Are the 835 awards usually priced higher than the alpaka goblets?"

                        I think they are. But it's up to you to decide whether you just want a goblet, or whether you "need" to get the 835.
                        George

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                          http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Luft...tos/L08850.htmlCan anybody venture a guess as to what caused that peculiar black band to form all the way around the oakleaves at the base? Is that a repair?

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