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Hello Chris,
For the record, I think that your Memel Medal is a good one. It looks very similiar, if not identical to the one I just posted, and I do believe that mine is original as well. Am I to understand that one can tell a fake from the genuine because on the fake there is too much curvature to the "m's", because the leg on the "G" goes straight upward instead of slanting inward, and because the "2's" look slightly different? Sorry, but I do not buy into that theory one bit. We have to assume then that only one manufacturer produced these pieces, and that there was only one set of tooling. I find it hard to believe that that was the case. In my opinion, I think that most of the nicest quality Memel Medals have the traits that are labeled in this thread as being indicators of a reproduction. Angolia's book from 1976 shows the Memel Medal with the straight leg letter "G", on page 65. Forman's book (2nd edition) also shows the Memel Medal with the straight leg "G". (That photo is credited to Dr. Klietmann on page 56.) I have two parade mounted medal bars that have Memel Medals on them. I will check out these two bars and see what the reverses look like. I will post some pictures of them in the near future.
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a big thankyou for replies to date. tyanacek look forward to your pics and your views put forward on my piece aswell as everyone elses viewsComment
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Hello Terry,Originally posted by TerryG
Yes, I checked that thread out, but unfortunately there are not many pictures remaining on the thread. What happened to them? After reading the thread though, I am not convinced that the medal is to be considered fake just on the basis of having a straight leg 'G', too curved of a letter 'm', and slightly different looking 2's. If we say that all genuine Memel Medals must have an angled inward letter 'G', very subdued curve to the letter 'm', and a certain looking '2' then are we not dealing in absolutes? If we do this then I think we are going to be passing up on some original pieces just because they look slightly different. Just my opinion on this very confusing subject.
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Just because a medal turns up in someones post-war book does not mean it is authenticOriginally posted by Seigfried
. The crooked 'G' medal is illustrated on p62 however in Medals & Decorations of the Third Reich by Dr Heinrich Doehle (1943) - re-printed in 1995 ISBN 0-9624883-4-8. This is a wartime Third Reich publication which I give a bit more credence to than a post-war one.
I look forward to the pics of the reverse of your memellandes.
John[/QUOTE]Hello John,
Thanks for your comments. I know what you mean about books, and there is not one of them that I put 100% faith in. The book by Doehle however shows illustrations or artistic renderings of medals and not actual photographs does it not? I'm sure that those renderings would be reasonably accurate, but I would not make golden rules based upon them either. I have many reference books and some show the straight leg 'G' while others show the leg angled inward. I guess the point that I am trying to make is that there are probably originals of both types out there.
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Detlev had one of these as a fake on his weekly update some time ago. Frank H had kept the photos, maybe he could post them again. The thing that Detlev added to his warning was the weight and/or the dimensions which is why a few of our members got theirs weighed. No conclusion was reached.Comment
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Hello to all,
As promised here are pictures of two medal bars I own that have a Memel Medal on them. The first is a two-placer consisting of the Russian Front and Memel Medals. I never doubted the authenticity of the piece. This is the type of bar where the medals can be removed from the reverse. I guess it's possible that an original medal could have been removed from the bar and replaced with a fake, but for what purpose? To have an original medal by itself without a ribbon, or placed on a piece of surplus ribbon, when leaving it on the bar makes it by far the better piece to own? This Memel Medal looks the same, if not identical to the one I posted earlier on this thread. I believe that original Memel Medals can be found with this style of reverse.Mihi libertas necessest!Comment
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Here is the reverse of the bar...Mihi libertas necessest!Comment
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Here is a closeup of the obverse...Mihi libertas necessest!Comment
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Here is the reverse closeup of the Memel Medal. It is 32.1mm in diameter, and weighs 13 grams.Mihi libertas necessest!Comment
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Here is a really nice 4-place medal bar consisting of the 1939 EKII, the Wehrmacht 4 Year Service, The Czech Occupation, and the Memel Medal.Mihi libertas necessest!Comment
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a closeup of the Memel Medal...Mihi libertas necessest!Comment
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and here is a reverse closeup. According to what I have read about the Memel Medal on this Forum, this is what the reverse of a genuine Memel Medal is supposed to look like. Are we really trying to say that all the originals must look exactly like this?
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