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    strange Russian Front Medal

    Hi - can you guys take a look at this, I originally posted it in the huge Russian Front thread started by Dez, & got a few remarks.
    The back of the badge has strange notches in the helmet & also notches in the grenade. It is marked on the ring with what appears to be "20". The envelope it came with says CF Zimmerman. I am pretty sure it is real but can others confirm ?
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    Strong wind-magic mist, to Asgard the Valkries fly
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    #2
    back of the medal

    Note the notches
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    Strong wind-magic mist, to Asgard the Valkries fly
    High overhead-they carry the dead, Where the blood of my enemies lies - MANOWAR - Hail to England

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      #3
      CLOSE UP

      Close up
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      Strong wind-magic mist, to Asgard the Valkries fly
      High overhead-they carry the dead, Where the blood of my enemies lies - MANOWAR - Hail to England

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        #4
        close up of the back helmet

        Again note the notches in the helmet & grenade
        Strong wind-magic mist, to Asgard the Valkries fly
        High overhead-they carry the dead, Where the blood of my enemies lies - MANOWAR - Hail to England

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          #5
          opps

          Dang wrong pic
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          Strong wind-magic mist, to Asgard the Valkries fly
          High overhead-they carry the dead, Where the blood of my enemies lies - MANOWAR - Hail to England

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            #6
            Dedication

            Also the "dedication" seems to have wierd spacing ??
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            Strong wind-magic mist, to Asgard the Valkries fly
            High overhead-they carry the dead, Where the blood of my enemies lies - MANOWAR - Hail to England

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              #7
              Here is the Eagle

              Has great detail etc ??
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              Strong wind-magic mist, to Asgard the Valkries fly
              High overhead-they carry the dead, Where the blood of my enemies lies - MANOWAR - Hail to England

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                #8
                front of envelope

                The front
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                Strong wind-magic mist, to Asgard the Valkries fly
                High overhead-they carry the dead, Where the blood of my enemies lies - MANOWAR - Hail to England

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                  #9
                  back of the env

                  Appears to have a price or something on the back ?
                  Attached Files
                  Strong wind-magic mist, to Asgard the Valkries fly
                  High overhead-they carry the dead, Where the blood of my enemies lies - MANOWAR - Hail to England

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                    #10
                    last one

                    Finally close up of the maker stamp on env
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                    Strong wind-magic mist, to Asgard the Valkries fly
                    High overhead-they carry the dead, Where the blood of my enemies lies - MANOWAR - Hail to England

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                      #11
                      Hi Craig,

                      Your Russian Front Medal is certainly different and has some strange features compared to others in the long thread but is it a repro? I'd say probably not. The finish looks period to me and there seems to be fine bubbling so it's probably a zinc example. The only repro of this medal I've seen has been in a soft metal with a high lead content.

                      Regarding the notches, is there any finish in the recesses or have the notches been made after the finish was applied? If the former then I'd say the notches would be a Zimmermann characteristic. If the latter then someone for some unknown reason may have simply butchered the badge.

                      You've asked the right question by trying to get images of another 20 marked medal. The notches may be particular to Zimmermann - different maker, different dies, different die characteristics and in this case quite different!

                      Regards
                      Mike K
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                      Mike

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                        #12
                        Thanks Mike

                        No there is finish on the notches, so assume it was made this way. The helmet ones are only visible from the back whereas the grenade notches are visibel from the front. Very strange perhaps only to be explained if another turns up. Hopefully there are a few out there !!
                        Strong wind-magic mist, to Asgard the Valkries fly
                        High overhead-they carry the dead, Where the blood of my enemies lies - MANOWAR - Hail to England

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                          #13
                          Dear Craig,

                          I once had a 25 marked example which featured similar notches on the grenade (see pictues for notch and 25 mark). I strongly believe this is a genuine characteristic for some makers (apparantly 20 and 25 at least). It was surely not done after the finish was applied. Spaces between letters and digits on the dedication is the same like on yours.

                          Cheers, Frank H.
                          Cheers, Frank

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                            #14
                            reverse
                            Cheers, Frank

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                              #15
                              Thanks Mike & Frank

                              Thanks guys excellent !!

                              Frank you have helped me out again, you must be a regular subscriber to the Help Craig Goodwin Charity Fund
                              Thanks for your assistance as usual
                              Strong wind-magic mist, to Asgard the Valkries fly
                              High overhead-they carry the dead, Where the blood of my enemies lies - MANOWAR - Hail to England

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