Another problem Prague bar?

[Paul Torak]

My thanks to Peppe864 for bringing these to the question table again. Hopefully this one might help pick out additional markers for real or fake bars. Marked to the back with L/11.
Opinions and any further help on these are appreciated.

Dave

[Paul Torak]

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[Stu W]

Different than mine...

Hello Paul,

I have not studied these in great detail but do note that the one you have posted differs considerably from one I have that I know to be authentic. I'll add a picture of mine for you to view and compare the features. Possibly yours is simply a different version.

Regards,
Stu

[Stu W]

reverse

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[Paul Torak]

Stu thanks for the pictures, and help, it's appreciated.
As I compare the bar you have, to mine, I've noticed what looks like carbon black on the back and front. Possibly to age it artificially? Or just mold release residue?
The spire between the central tower, and the one to the Left of it is very faint as well.
Also, the one I have was purchased as a stand alone pin, not attached to a ribbon, which might point it further to the dark side.
Stu thanks again for the rresearch help

[Stu W]

Also check for the maker/designer mark.

Hi Paul,

This photo is on an old thread (thanks Darrell) but shows the MC mark to look for as well.

Regards,
Stu

[kenneth wolfe]

Hi

Paul,


I do not like yours and believe it to be a repro.

Stu,


Not all bars have the HC so you can see time period peices without the HC.



Kenneth

[Stu W]

HC or MC

Hi Kenneth,

Thanks. I was aware that not all authentic types had the mark but have never known for sure if it's an MC or HC. Also is it for maker or designer? Anything you can tell us about that?

Regards,
Stu

From the linked thread below, supplied by Greg, I've now learned that it's "H.C." for Hanish-Concee, who, according to Doehle, is the sculptor who did the work on the spange. Thank you Greg.

[Inspector Krogh]

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ht=prager+burg

[Robert P.]

The type with the 'HC' is the accepted bar. It is my understanding that some collectors accept another type, one without the 'HC'.

Here's an 'L/12'-marked bar with the 'HC' first...

Robert

[Robert P.]

and here is the accepted (by some) version without the 'HC'...It has (2) small narrow prongs that hold it in place.

[mrg]

Hi Dave in my opinion the Bar that you show would not be for my collection. All the best

[Stu W]

Great linked thread...must read.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ht=prager+burg

Hello Greg,

Thanks for the thread link. It's a good read. Nice to know that "H.C." is for Hanish-Concee. As you say, according to Doehle, he is the sculptor who did the work on the spange. Learn something new every day here.

Regards,
Stu

[Inspector Krogh]

Hello Greg,

Thanks for the thread link. It's a good read. Nice to know that "H.C." is for Hanish-Concee. As you say, according to Doehle, he is the sculptor who did the work on the spange. Learn something new every day here.

Regards,
Stu

My pleasure Stu. Hanisch-Concee...I believe I have the spelling correct there, after misspelling it previously (sorry about that).
Although I must do some homework to confirm, HC was I believe, active in the LDO in some capacity...which raises the question (at least for me) why would he or the LDO allow someone to step on his design, and market it?
However insignificant the decoration was, it was nonetheless, the official design!
G.