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    guys this bar is killing me - any idea what is this bar for with swords ?? - doesnt look like KVK etc... ?!
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    Romanian Crusade against Communism with swords?

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      #3
      Originally posted by byterock View Post
      Romanian Crusade against Communism with swords?
      hmmm... I dont know if these stripes arent too wide on this bar to be romanian crusade -also - were there a swords for it ?? - I thought only bars with names of battles ?

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        #4
        I do not think Romania Medaille zur Erinnerung an den Kreuzzug gegen den Kommunismus had any swords either.

        My guess would be Anhalt Hausorden Albrechts des Bären - Ritterkreuz 1. u. 2. Klasse mit Schwerter

        This is a very good reference site for ribbon bars;

        http://www.medals.lava.pl/de/de3.htm

        Peter

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          #5
          Originally posted by PeterL View Post
          I do not think Romania Medaille zur Erinnerung an den Kreuzzug gegen den Kommunismus had any swords either.

          My guess would be Anhalt Hausorden Albrechts des Bären - Ritterkreuz 1. u. 2. Klasse mit Schwerter

          This is a very good reference site for ribbon bars;

          http://www.medals.lava.pl/de/de3.htm

          Peter
          hmm.. ribbon looks a like kinda.. but - this Anhalt Hausorden Albrechts des Bären is a VERY high decoration and seems it was awarded only till 1918 ?!

          how could the kid like this SS guy get it ?!

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            #6
            Michael,

            You are propably right, I have no knowledge about the criteria for most of the pre 33 awards, I will hopefully learn in the future. Could it then be a Legion Condor where the colours play us a trick? If we look at the WB it looks like a early one to me and I think it might even be one without swastika but it is hard to tell from the picture.

            Just speculating a friday night.

            Regards

            Peter

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              #7
              It kind of looks like the ribbon for the Sudantenland medal but that doesn't make sense...

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                #8
                he is wearing what appears to be a First World War wound badge,and to me the ribbon looks like a hindy cross with swords. my grandfather brought one home, i apologize in advance for the bad pic. to my eyes i see a simularity

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                  #9
                  Looks too young for the HK wX

                  Could be the Mussert Cross
                  http://axis101.bizland.com/DutchAwards5.htm

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                    #10
                    Well it doesnt look like The Mussert Bravery Cross..... too bad - that would be easy one

                    of course He has a BWB there and its WW2 pattern - no question about that...

                    Jono - thats exactly my first thought - this bar looks soo much like sudetenland - so what is the story about these swords ?? - maybe sudetenland bar fell off the bar - and guy replaced it with KVK swords so it wont look like crap ??

                    just a theory ?!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Michael Kuligowski View Post

                      Jono - thats exactly my first thought - this bar looks soo much like sudetenland - so what is the story about these swords ?? - maybe sudetenland bar fell off the bar - and guy replaced it with KVK swords so it wont look like crap ??

                      just a theory ?!
                      I'm actually quite sure thats what it is. If anyone has a copy of Robin Lumsden's "Medals and Orders of Hitler's Germany" on page 147 there is a picture of an oberfeldwebel that has what appears to be the exact same thing on his ribbon bar. It doesn't have swords and i'm pretty sure its a sudatenland ribbon.

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                        #12
                        I have never seen a Sudet with swords, but I do not claim to have seen it all, on the contrary. I will not be convinced until I see other Sudets with ribbons. I agree that the colouring looks right but the swords.....

                        Peter

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                          #13
                          Colour defo looks like Sudatenland award. But with swords?
                          Hmm...?
                          Dan

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                            #14
                            Only ribbon bar with same style but, with bar not swords.
                            Dan
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                              #15
                              And here is another link to some TR ribbon bars, you can see 3 diffrent Sudeten ribbons but non have the swords

                              http://axisawards.homestead.com/ribbons.html

                              Peter

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