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Been discussed many times, do a search of the memel
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Polemic topic!!!!!
I dont like this Memel (wrong: m, Ä, 9...).
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SchmidtComment
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I do not think that this is what is being discussed here - these types of memel have been sold on the estand recently with no debate - I think the issue here is the plain awful quality of the medal itself, not the 'm' etcOriginally posted by wschmidt View PostComment
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Fact is the was not original Memelland medallie
Regards ThomasComment
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Yes John is correct. We can debate the 2? types of Memels forever, but I am just questioning the poor shape this one is in.
The reverse (lettering side) looks ok, but that obverse has some real issues IMHO.
AlComment
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One more pic...
Here is a better shot of the obverse. (I have removed the medal from the eStand-listing, for obvious reasons.) Please feel free to discuss!
Best,
MikaelMikael G.Comment
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I thought that when the podium touches the edge of the medal that was a sure sign of a fake.pseudo-expertComment
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I wasn't aware of that - but upon checking my own Memel it would appear that this is the case - the vertical podium lines on my example merge seamlessly into the background. The medal featured appears to have been cleaned with an abrasive at some time - it bears tiny scratches, it is an unusual colour (maybe due to the abrasion) and the eagle's head is deformed. I'd return it if possible, even if original (which I highly doubt) it is not a nice example.Originally posted by Don Doering View PostComment
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I also agree with the podium comments. I think there was one example out there that was accepted that had the podium make contact with the edge, but I have my doubts. Almost every bad fake I have seen has had this characteristic and since it was the last of the flower medals (all with identical obverses) you would think it would show up often in the Austrian or Czech medals as well.
There is no quality at all to the example in question. The eagle and the left foot of both men are mssing chunks, the area between the 2 men is a mess with undefined edges all over the place, and I think the guy with the chain on his arm looks a little too much like Lenin to be on a TR award.
Does anyone have anything favourable to say about this medal?
AlComment
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I've never owned a Memel medal but I'd pass on this one simply because of the poor detail, which I wouldn't consider as "wear"WAF LIFE COACHComment
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Hi everybody,
"Fact is the was not original Memelland medallie"
"Been discussed many times, do a search of the memel"
"Polemic topic!!!!! I dont like this Memel (wrong: m, Ä, 9...)."
Does somebody have primary sources which prove, that this medal is a fake?
Can anybody show me primary sources with pictures of the privileged medal, that medal with the special form of the M, the G, the Ä and the 9?
Regards
UweComment
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Yes - here is a scan from p62 of the 1943 period publication "Medals & Decorations of the Third Reich" by Dr Heinrich Doehle.Originally posted by speedytop View Post
You will note after careful examination of the scan that the medal I have illustrated is the 'crooked G' type. As far as I am concerned, this is the final word on these. I cannot guarantee that other types are not original but it is also worth bearing in mind that as only 31,000 were awarded, isn't it odd that the one from the 1943 book is the more rare version - not the one that you see quite commonly?Comment
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