Stalingrad Cross - Opinions

[Yuri D.]

What do you guys think?

Yuri

[Yuri D.]

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[W. C. Stump]

TYPICAL OF KNOWN ORIGINALS

Your devise is typical of other accepted originals. here is one that Scott Prichard posted on another discussion of these items.

[Yuri D.]

Bill,

The colour of the device that I've posted is gilted. Aren't they supposed to be made from grey metal? Also, the paint is too dark. Thoughts....


Yuri

[W. C. Stump]

JUST MY THINKING

I noticed the paint is darker, but that could be just another variation since these were non official devises. I have never seen a gilded devise. I really don't think we have enough proven originals to compare your example with. I am attaching another pair from the Noss collection.

Sorry, but the scan came out blurred and too large.

[W. C. Stump]

FROM THE NOSS COLLECTION

Another try at posting the scans from the Noss collection.

[Yuri D.]

Thanks Bill. Since all of the original examples that I have seen have the light-blue color and are constructed out of a grey metal, I will pass on these shoulderboards.

Yuri

[djpool]

SGRAD CROSS

Hi yuri,

I'm not sure if there is any definitive reference to help the collector determine what a real S grad Cross is supposed to look like. In the Bender books on Medals they comment that 3 variations of the cross may have existed. The one you show certainly looks like most known originals except for the coloring. Most repros do not have the detail of the one in the pic you show. Of course I would be interested in seeing posts of repros to compare. I posted a topic on this subject on another forum. Heres the link if you are interested.Jim

http://daggers.infopop.net/2/OpenTop...3&m=5623070886

[Tim B.]

Yuri,

I have absolutely no knowledge of this item, but from a photographic standpoint, keep in mind that depending on camera angle, lighting used, and any post-picture enhancement to bring out details, these could have slightly different tones and appearances.

Speculation could also say manufacturer and wear differences as well.

Only some thoughts here.
Tim

[TJ Suter]

Yuri, the blue looks too dark in the first photograph if the pic is true to the board. I don't have any of these, unfortunately ( ), however, Dave Suter does. If he misses this thread, you might e-mail and have him give it a look.

[Pieter Verbruggen]

To my experience the original Stalingrad crosses should have the light blue color like the first one Mr.Stump posted.
Needles to say they are very rare devises.
Pieter.

[Dave Suter]

Wouldn't have it in my collection. The color is consistent with known fakes.

[Dave Suter]

Forgot to thank Bill for re-posting the photo of Scott Pritchett's board. I'm happy to report that it now lives with me.