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**Klaus O.** · 01-20-2003, 08:45 AM

Michel,

Here it is my identification:

1) Preussen, Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse, 1914
Iron Cross 2nd class, WWI

2) III. Reich, Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse mit Schwertern
3rd Reich, War Merit Cross with swords, 2nd class

3) Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer 1914-1918
official Commemorative cross for WWI combattants

4) Weimarer Republik, Schlesischer Adler 2. Klasse mit Schwertern
Freikorp's decoration for defending the Eastern German
borders after WWI against Poland (3 months duty? not sure)

5) III. Reich, Wehrmachtsdienstauszeichnung (4 Jahre) 4. Klasse
3rd Reich, Army long service medal (4 years)

6) III. Reich, Erinnerungsmedaille Sudetenland-Anschluss
3rd Reich, commmorative medal for the annexation of
the "Sudenten".

The ribbons are folded in a typical manner, mainly used in the Southern part of Germany (Bavaria, for example).

I hope this helped you.

Ciao,

Claudio

**Michel** · 01-20-2003, 09:04 AM

Thank you Claudio,

Is it possible for a KM member to have this ribbon bar ?

**Michel** · 01-20-2003, 09:13 AM

And for this ?

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**Rick Research** · 01-20-2003, 01:06 PM

It is more likely that the first bar was worn by someone in the army, because it is on Feldgrau backing. Naval ribbon bars are usually--but not always--on black or navy blue.

It would certainly look correct on a naval officer's jacket, since so many naval personnel served in Silesia.

The South German style was also popular in East Prussia and along the Baltic coast region, so it shows up in naval photos too.

The second bar is very nice:

EK2 1914 with 1939 Spange, WWI Honor CrossX, Wehrmacht 25, Wehrmacht 12, Sudeten 1938 with 1939 Prague Bar, and Hungarian WW1 Commemorative Medal for combatants. This could be either army or navy.

The owner was obviously career military-- but with no WW1 award in his group except the Iron Cross, not traceable.

**Michel** · 01-20-2003, 01:30 PM

Thank you Rick

**all1knew** · 02-02-2003, 05:58 PM

Michael

Sir,

If you ever wanted to sell your six place ribbon bar, please let me know. Not trying to pressure you, if you want to hold on to it, simply let me know. My e-mail address is all1knew@yahoo.com

Thank you.

William Kramer

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