eStand fake - 1st Fallschirm. Korps Pin

[Jo Rivett]

Oh dear, sold already.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=910564

It is modern rubbish, made in Japan and available directly from the faker - including the bag of course - for €39.-

[Flextech]

Good catch Jo! sombody got screwed

[Jo Rivett]

Good catch Jo! sombody got screwed

Can`t take credit.. it was another WAF member who alerted me to the sale on my forum... These pathetic modern - easy to spot as fake - fakes, i have been following the past four (three) years, (one year break inbeteween) and have found no less than 33 of them .. all sold as genuine by every dealer and their dog. Amounting to USD 6500.- Six thousand five hundred dollars in total.. just for these Japanese fakes.
I wrote a short article about them too, linked to the Japanese faker and where they can be aquired. Also showing an original.

I would sugguest to any dealer who sold them as genuine, to immediately stop selling small badges, as they obviously have no idea what they are doing.
But of course nobody will give a monkeys cuss, and my article-list will continue to grow

[Larry F.]

I sold it and will refund the buyer his money.

However, please post on the FJ Forum for opinions and discussion.

No one will be screwed I can assure you.

Thank you,

Larry

[Jo Rivett]

... please post on the FJ Forum for opinions and discussion.
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Hi Larry
Not sure if you meant me with "post it on the FJ.." but if you did, then i can only say no thanks.

I have my own forum for these detailed "following the sh*t sold by experts" threads. Especially when it comes to crap sold by WAF mods, WAF sponsors, WAF experts and WAF dealers.
I am no longer prepared to offer up my time-consuming research on a silver platter for members of this forum, only to be insulted and laughed at, and, as recently happened here, recieve threads of bodily harm even.
Sorry, it has nothing to do with you of course, just a culmination of the last years of grief here on WAF and the realization that if i am going to help collectors, i need to do it another way, and not by posting on a public forum.

[djpool]

Hi Larry
Not sure if you meant me with "post it on the FJ.." but if you did, then i can only say no thanks.

I have my own forum for these detailed "following the sh*t sold by experts" threads. Especially when it comes to crap sold by WAF mods, WAF sponsors, WAF experts and WAF dealers.
I am no longer prepared to offer up my time-consuming research on a silver platter for members of this forum, only to be insulted and laughed at, and, as recently happened here, recieve threads of bodily harm even.
Sorry, it has nothing to do with you of course, just a culmination of the last years of grief here on WAF and the realization that if i am going to help collectors, i need to do it another way, and not by posting on a public forum.

Well I appreciate your efforts. Reproductions to fool and those for reenactors are flooding the hobby at all levels. Fortunately most fakes can be exposed with the efforts of folks like you. Knowledge is our best weapon. I just weeded out six bad dog tags from my collection with the help of fellow collectors. So please keep up the good work. Jim

[Willi Z.]

Oh dear, sold already.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=910564

It is modern rubbish, made in Japan and available directly from the faker - including the bag of course - for €39.-

While they certainly make fakes of these, I don't agree with you.

Please show me the ad where these can be purchased for €39.

So, you are saying all the ones coming from Italy since about 1999 are fake?

[Willi Z.]

Hi Larry
Not sure if you meant me with "post it on the FJ.." but if you did, then i can only say no thanks.

I have my own forum for these detailed "following the sh*t sold by experts" threads. Especially when it comes to crap sold by WAF mods, WAF sponsors, WAF experts and WAF dealers.
I am no longer prepared to offer up my time-consuming research on a silver platter for members of this forum, only to be insulted and laughed at, and, as recently happened here, recieve threads of bodily harm even.
Sorry, it has nothing to do with you of course, just a culmination of the last years of grief here on WAF and the realization that if i am going to help collectors, i need to do it another way, and not by posting on a public forum.

Some serious allegations. Care to elaborate which WAF mods and WAF experts sell fakes?

[Gerd W.]

Oh dear, sold already.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=910564

It is modern rubbish, made in Japan and available directly from the faker - including the bag of course - for €39.-

Dummes Gelaber und keine Ahnung

[jack1]

My Gewd
This forum is oozing venom for author Jo Rivett.
Its about time it is stopped.
Humble collectors like Jo are a breath of fresh air in this so corrupted hobby.
People selling SH-T are becoming exposed its just a matter of time.Thing is they know they are selling fakes,there is no excuse anymore.
Thank god for forensics.

[Flextech]

He noted that Giels Militaria sold one,,is he not a sponsor? or at very least considered one of the Experts on here

Also, when are guys just going to stop buying from Barry Turk altogether?

[Willi Z.]

Dummes Gelaber und keine Ahnung

Ja, genau.

[Willi Z.]

He noted that Giels Militaria sold one,,is he not a sponsor? or at very least considered one of the Experts on here

Just curious, what do you know about these badges? I am all ears. Not interested in some smart*as comments.

I first encountered them at the SOS (it was either 1999 or 2000). A Major in the Italian Army brought a couple over. Ultimately it turns out many were in the lot, and have turned up. Doesn't make them fake.

I asked for information as to where they are available for €39. I am truly curious, as there is always something to learn. None of the serious FJ collectors believe they are bad. Are we all co-conspirators?

So, since you jumped in... Are they bad based on your experience? Where can I find these fakes? We are discussing this matter in the FJ section, where I posted a very good fake I found. I look forward to your contribution.

[Willi Z.]

My Gewd
This forum is oozing venom for author Jo Rivett.
Its about time it is stopped.
Humble collectors like Jo are a breath of fresh air in this so corrupted hobby.
People selling SH-T are becoming exposed its just a matter of time.Thing is they know they are selling fakes,there is no excuse anymore.
Thank god for forensics.

Where is this oozing venom? I don't even know the guy. I know what others have to say, but that matters not to me. I only care what has been said on this thread. And his allegations. Check the WAF rules about such conduct.

[Flextech]

I dont collect these
I see and comprehend Jo's research and therfore what Jo says is true
and factual. because he does honest research,,not say something is period because some guy brought a bunch to a show back in the day

I'm not looking for a fight nor am I trying to be a smart*ss
just saying I believe in hard won hands down research. I suggest you study Jo's methods and see for yourself if you really desire to learn something

Just my humble 2 cents, I wont comment again