Legit Fallscirmjager Tunic?

[HGCollector]

If this tunic is all correct, it would represent a later war pilot display very nicely.

So NCOs could be pilots???

Sorry, as you can tell this is not my area

[François B.]

So NCOs could be pilots???

Yes they were, especially later on in the war..

François

[John Hodgin]

[quote=Francois Beyerlein;3174651]Yes they were, especially later on in the war..

François[/quote

Yes indeed. Unlike in the USAAF, NCOs in the Luftwaffe, and in the RAF, could be pilots.

[jacquesf]

A lot of the senior pilots were NCO's and winners of RK's. In the case of bombers the pilots used to be NCO's and the observer would be an officer and the aircraft commander. Jacques

[HGCollector]

Okay..........how about this..........what if I took insignia off and put Herman Goring tabs and boards on it??? That be correct???

[FLiPSiDE]

I have about four of these LWFD HBT tunics and none of them ever had collar tabs on them. I don't believe these normally came or had collar tabs....tress yes and factory sewn zig zag breast eagles is about it .So I don't think the tabs are original to this tunic as well as the tress.

Is that the origin of the green HBT luftwaffe tunics? Are they generally attributed to use by LWFD? Does anybody have photos of LWFD wearing them (or where can I find more info on this)? I'm interested in these tunics as well as LWFD so specifics on this would be greatly appreciated

[Jos L C]

In the case of bombers the pilots used to be NCO's and the observer would be an officer and the aircraft commander.

Jacques

A low rank observer ..

Jos.

[jacquesf]

A low rank observer ..

Jos.

No argument, would also depend on the type of plane. Jacques Ps, seems to be an officer candidate.

[Jos L C]

His Beobachter badge might be hard to see, but here's a NCO observer with quite some missions, he's from a bomber plane IMO.

Jos.

[Jos L C]

Okay..........how about this..........what if I took insignia off and put Herman Goring tabs and boards on it??? That be correct???

You can leave the yellow color and make it a field soldier, even Stuka units had their fieldtroops by the end of the war.. with Erdkampf abzeichen, Schmeisser and potatoe mashers..

Jos.

[Gary Cain]

258 kills if my memory serves. 255 against the Russians.


Cheers
Gary
P.S. I care too

or a glider pilot with jumphelmet ..

Yes, the guy is Nowotny, famous fighterpilot.. it was just to illustrate the HBT jacket.

Jos.

[Willi Z.]

Sure we can encounter, as we see in Jos' photos, the fact that collar tabs were added to cotton tunics, tan tropical tunics and HBT tunics. Still the unique exception.

HBT tunics were not Luftwaffe Field Division tunics. They are drill tunics and went from tan to blue to green. Worn for training and in some warm weather climates.

Seeing a mint unissued HBT tunic all jacked up with awards and collar tabs means you are looking at a fantasy tunic.

If people didn't buy these fantasy tunics no one would be creating them.

[monte cassino]

HBT tunics were not Luftwaffe Field Division tunics. They are drill tunics and went from tan to blue to green. Worn for training and in some warm weather climates.

I am always wondering how it is with the rare green cotton late -war luftwaffe tunics. M44? With the cotton similar to that of the tropical tunics.

Anybody ever seen pictures of this rare tunic being worn or even being worn by LW ground troops?

kind regards
Ruben

[Willi Z.]

I am always wondering how it is with the rare green cotton late -war luftwaffe tunics. M44? With the cotton similar to that of the tropical tunics.

Anybody ever seen pictures of this rare tunic being worn or even being worn by LW ground troops?

kind regards
Ruben

Hi Ruben,
By M44 I am referring to the wool tunics which can be encountered in Blaugrau or Feldgrau. I have yet to see a photo of one being worn.

The HG formations fought in East Prussia and all the way back to near Dresden at the end of the war. Since so few of those members made it to the west it is impossible to know what uniforms they were wearing.

There is much we do not know about later Luftwaffe uniforms.

[Michael N]

Here is a link to a late green cotton M44 Tunic:

http://www.relichunter.com/luftfdtunic.jpg