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          #19
          Is there a serial number stamped behind one of the front pockets ?
          Sorry to say, I think they are copies.

          Regards,
          Steve

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            #20
            In my opinion originals
            Luca
            Siam fatti cosi!

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              #21
              LITZMANNSTADT is a well known

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                #22
                Not original.
                Willi

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Willi Zahn View Post
                  Not original.
                  agree with Oberst Zahn,the are well know repros

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                    #24
                    most interesting thing is that these pants were made in my home town ( Litzmannstadt is occupation name of Lodz in Poland which during II WW was incorporated to the III Reich ( gau Wartheland ) because had a giant textile industry ).

                    I as far as I know the most known fake of tropical luft trousers are those marked Holz & Binkowski , I never seen before any Wirtschaftsamt Litzmannstadt copies.

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                      #25
                      Guys if you could expalin me why these are fakes than I would be very very appriciated .

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by clint-magnum View Post
                        LITZMANNSTADT is a well known
                        why?? because the Wirtschaftsamt Litzmannstadt markings ??

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by 19BARBAROSSA41 View Post
                          why?? because the Wirtschaftsamt Litzmannstadt markings ??
                          They have been discussed many times. Here is just one thread:
                          http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=Litzmannstadt

                          Regards,
                          Steve

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by SMP View Post
                            Is there a serial number stamped behind one of the front pockets ?
                            Sorry to say, I think they are copies.

                            Regards,
                            Steve
                            Yes there is "G2907" stamped in balck ,but is under the back pocket behind the lining.
                            Do you need pic?
                            I'm very sad this pants a re copies
                            Carlo

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by solo View Post
                              Yes there is "G2907" stamped in balck ,but is under the back pocket behind the lining.
                              Do you need pic?

                              Carlo
                              Hi Carlo,
                              Sorry, I mean't to say the back pocket !
                              No need for a photo - the number confirms it. The fakes all have this same number stamped there. Try a burn test on some of the threads used to sew bits of the trousers. You might find that Nylon thread has been used. Also, use a UV (black) light to check the trousers. Parts of these fakes glow brightly. The Litzmannstadt stamp is a copy of an original maker's stamp, but the fakers got some of the details wrong.
                              Just curious - did they come from Holland ?

                              Sorry again for the bad news. I got caught by one of these fakes many years ago, but luckily I got my money back .
                              Regards,
                              Steve


                              Another thread: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=litzmannstadt
                              Last edited by SMP; 11-28-2008, 10:43 AM.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by 19BARBAROSSA41 View Post
                                Guys if you could expalin me why these are fakes than I would be very very appriciated .
                                Please read the links that Steve has posted and study the photos there.

                                Carlo, Thanks for the very kind PM. Of course I agree totally with Steve, Willi, and others, these überfallhosen are reproductions. There are many small details that betray this fact, and to explain them in detail here would be folly. To do so, would mostly help improve the next generation of fakes of these trousers. Please study the photos in the threads that Steve linked to carefully. Buttons, lining, sewing, etc.

                                And for the very same reason is why photos of maker's marks that you asked about are not included in my book, this would have helped the fakers more, and in the end made it more difficult for us all in the future.

                                Best,
                                John
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