Luft FD sumpftarn smock

[Edwin]

John feedback was very helpfull and clear....I think we have to be glad to have members like John who can have a well based opinion

up-date on the jacket is that it's on the way back to germany. Herr Weitze was very fast to reply...so I quess that will work out fine too.

regards

Edwin

[John Hodgin]

up-date on the jacket is that it's on the way back to germany. Herr Weitze was very fast to reply...so I quess that will work out fine too.

regards

Edwin

Very glad to hear this Edwin! Please keep us up-dated on the out come.

And thanks for the kind words.
wishing you good collecting,
John

[Larry F.]

John, thanks for the info. As usual, you're a big help!!

Best,

Larry

[Ostfries]

good luck,

Your posts appear to me (as they seem to members who have emailed and PM'ed) scarcastic and unfriendly. So, I find your "well mannered" statment extremely ironic.

If by "schoolyard" you imply this thread is educational, it is.

Fakers "could sew 'blue' wool backed eagles to their fake jackets"????? Please post a photo of a Sumpf jacket with an authentic wool backed eagle. Would love to see one!

As I stated, we will continue discussing why a piece is good or bad, and will try to do so without giving too much information to fakers. Edwin is far better equipped to purchase an authentic FD jacket on his own now, and at a greatly reduced risk of making another mistake. A simplistic, "it's bad" would not have left him so prepared.

John

If so, what would that say?, personally I always address (by personal message or reply) the one I have a “problem” with in person, not behind there back. Discussing the piece?, besides me there where three other respected members who stated that the type of HBT used in this fake smock where also used in know reproductions as the “HG” sumpf wraps and sumpf HBT Heer “sniper” smocks, unfortunately you didn’t even took the effort to, with respect to content, reply to them. Not once my replies towards you got indecent nor did, as you, I accuse someone of talking rant or having some sort of agenda, I do comprehend that personally you interpret my replies as unfriendly because I didn’t agree with you. I’m sorry you feel that way and if, to your opinion, my replies violated any forum rules someone should give me an infraction or perhaps even a ban, unfortunately, to be honest, regarding these kind of discussions, I really could care less.

[Willi Z.]

Enough of this nonsense! Seriously....

No one thought this jacket is original. John is only saying that there is much we do not know yet. It is possible that they made water pattern jackets in HBT. We just haven't seen one yet. His point is that we must consider each one on it's own merit rather than just say it is wrong because they didn't make any. And, rather than just give a or it is nice to be able to help others decide for themself whether it is good or bad.

[pitfighter]

Excellent thread - IMO worth reviving -
What are the thoughts on this FD smock - ?
Offered to me on a FB trading forum.

I was thinking it was good, until the discussion I found here on the lack of, or extreme rarity, HBT FD smocks.

[pitfighter]

Any thoughts?

[GAMS1]

Looks good from what i see !
Original HBT smock a bit "denazified" !
Nick

[pitfighter]

Looks good from what i see !
Original HBT smock a bit "denazified" !
Nick

Understatement, sadly.

[Willi Z.]

Certainly an original jacket. Besides the eagle area issues, the front buttons look replaced.

Always interesting to see an old thread brought back to life.