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    Hoping for help on some WP entries

    Hello !

    I hope for help in reading some entries in this Werfer WP.
    (Also perhaps for the meaning of some entries.)

    I am unsure about a lot of his personal details on p. 3 :
    Name : Ignatz (or Ignaz ?) Machuletz ?!
    Birthday : 3. ???? 1902
    Place of birth and Kreis : ?

    Staatsangehörigkeit : I read : Dt. Reich a.W. (D.V.L. 2)
    => What does it mean, especially the a.W. ?!

    Religion : r.[oem.] kath. ?!
    stand : verheiratet

    Profession : Tischler ?!

    father : Johann
    Profession : ?

    Mother : no idea ...

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    Then there is written something all across p. 3, from which I can only read the date :
    7. XI. 45
    I have never seen such a writing. Any idea what is written, what it means ?!

    I made extra scans so perhaps it is more readable.

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    There are only a few more entries with problems :

    p. 4 :
    Schulbild. : ???
    foreign languages : ???

    p. 5 :
    field 14 : Entscheid /Tauglichkeitsgrad is what ?
    (I think he was sent to Ldw. I)

    p. 26/27 : no idea what it says !

    Any help would be appreciated !

    Best regards,

    Archi
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      Schulbild. : Volkschule
      Foreign lang. "Absp.polnisch i.Wort" ?? ... Sometning like this...

      Page 5 : "KV" (= Kriegsverwendunfsfähig). Landwehr 1

      Page 26, 27 : Not easy... Hut in poln. Kurs Kurs 4 Woche, gedient, Inf. ??

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        #4
        Ignatz Machuletz, 3.Juli 1902. Religion, Stand § profession : Your 3 suppositions are correct. Mother : DUDEK - first Name : can't read, first thought Anni or Bonni....

        No Idea what is writing across, east european language for sure...

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          #5
          Can not read the place where he was born because of the writiings on it, the Kreis is "Pless" and the Bezirk "Kattowitz"....

          Hope it helps a little...

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            #6
            Hello Lionel !

            Many thanks. That already helps a lot !

            regarding the language :
            i. Wort would make sense (translates to : in speech [only]).
            (The other variant would be : in Wort und Schrift (+writing) ).

            Could it be : oberschl.[esisches] Polnisch ?!
            Is there such a dialect ?

            Then there would be only left :
            - his birthplace
            - profession of the father
            - p. 26 entry ??
            - what is written across p. 3

            And maybe :
            Staatsangehörigkeit : I read : Dt. Reich a.W. (D.V.L. 2)
            => What does it mean, especially the a.W. ?!
            Many thanks again and best regards,

            Archi

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              #7
              Originally posted by Archi View Post
              Hello Lionel !

              Many thanks. That already helps a lot !

              regarding the language :
              i. Wort would make sense (translates to : in speech [only]).
              (The other variant would be : in Wort und Schrift (+writing) ).

              Could it be : oberschl.[esisches] Polnisch ?!
              Is there such a dialect ?

              Then there would be only left :
              - his birthplace
              - profession of the father
              - p. 26 entry ??
              - what is written across p. 3

              And maybe :

              Many thanks again and best regards,

              Archi
              Oberschlesisch-Polnisch i.W. (in Wort)

              Geburtsort: Zwiklitz = Ćwiklice (5km east of Pless)

              profession of father: Kutscher

              mother's name: Annie Dudek

              page 26: Hat im polnischen Heer 4 Wochen gedient - infantristische Eignung

              What is written across page 3: - I can only read the date but I believe the words are in Polish.

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              Last edited by naxos; 07-29-2019, 07:05 PM.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Archi View Post

                Staatsangehörigkeit : I read : Dt. Reich a.W. (D.V.L. 2)
                => What does it mean, especially the a.W. ?!


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                D.V.L. 2 is the legislation under which he could choose the German nationality - see here: http://universaar.uni-saarland.de/jo...rticle/471/510
                Last edited by naxos; 07-29-2019, 07:45 PM.

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                  #9
                  Hello naxos !

                  Excellent !
                  Many thanks to you as well, that clarifies almost all open questions !
                  Now I was able to find it : Cwiklice is only ~25km S of Katowice.

                  I think now, that I made a misread, regarding the Staatsangehörigkeit :
                  It is possibly: Dt. Reich, D.V.L. 3
                  Then the a.W. is likely a shortcut for : "auf Widerruf" (not permanent, could be rescinded)

                  Perhaps some of the members from Poland/ or capable reading Polish language
                  could help on the writing across p. 3 ?!

                  Thanks again and best regards,

                  Archi

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                    #10
                    D.V.L. 3 - Deutsche Volksliste 3

                    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Volksliste

                    The people of German origin living in Oberschlesien could choose the German nationality as option if they wanted.

                    Gerdan

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Gerdan View Post
                      D.V.L. 3 - Deutsche Volksliste 3

                      https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Volksliste

                      The people of German origin living in Oberschlesien could choose the German nationality as option if they wanted.

                      Gerdan

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                        #12
                        Hello !

                        Very interesting link, Gerdan.
                        Many thanks !

                        Best regards,

                        Archi

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