any info on this ww2 German ID tag would be appreciated : number on top 3364 below that is StammKp. Fla Ers.&Ausb. below that B t l mot 66 and blood type A the tag is made out of zinc I think..........thanks
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StammKompanie Fliegerabwehr Ersatz und Ausbildungs Bataillon 66 (motorized).Originally posted by thp38
What do you think Matt? I'm not %100 on this one to be honest.
3364 would have been his personal number and his bloodtype would have been "A".
If I am correct....this is a motorized Flak unit - Ers.&Ausb. would indicate that this is a training and replacement unit (which is commonly what is stamped on a soldiers disc). This unit (if I am correct in identifying it) would have suppied Fla.Btl 606 and Fla.Kp.190 (Replacement Army). If this disc did supply this soldier to the Fla.Btl.606, he would have served in Afrika (Tessin).
Hope this helps, perhaps Matt can add something.
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I'd have given the exact same information Chris- and I'd add the specifics:
Fla-Ersatz-Bataillon (motorisiert) 66
Created on 2.5.1941 in Wakernheim bei Mainz from the already established Fla-Ersatz-Kompanie 66 (created on 26.8.1939). On 1.10.1942 the unit was split into Fla-Ersatz-Bataillon (mot.) 66 and Fla-Ersatz und Ausbildungs-Bataillon (mot.) 66. These were again consolidated on 1.4.1943 back into (presumably) Fla-Ersatz Bataillon (mot.) 66 in Mainz-Gonsenheim (Wehrkreis XII).
(VMD Orgainsationsgeschichte der deutschen Wehrmacht- not Tessin actually)
This means that discs marked Fla. Ers. u. Ausb. Btl. (mot.) 66 would have only been issued in the 6 months between 1.10.42 and 1.4.43.
I would also point out that because this is a Fla. Bataillon, it's actually fairly uncommon. Standard Luftwaffe Flak units were Flak Abteilungen and Regimenter- a Fla. Bataillon was, I believe, a Heer unit. The main designation seems to be a differentiating characteristic as well: Luftwaffe units were 'Flak', but the Heer units were 'Fliegerabwehr', abbreviated as 'Fla.'. Also, it seems that there were only 11 Fla. Ersatz Bataillone, whereas there were over 40 Flak Ersatz Abteilungen.
Interestingly, I found a Heeres-Flak-Abzeichen award document for an Obergefreiter of 1./ Fla. Btl. 606 dated 10. Mai 1943 (http://www.militaria-lexikon.de/kata..._bericht1.html about half-way down).
Now if indeed the reference (The Replacement Army) is correct, that Fla. Ers. u. Ausb. Btl. (mot.) 66 supplied troops to Fla. Btl. 606, it is possible that the soldier who wore the disc in question did serve with Heeresgruppe Afrika. Now, if you look, you'll find sources that state it was either Fla. Btl. 606 or Flak. Abt. 606 that was part of the 5. leichte Divison in Africa, however Flak. Abt. 606 was a standard Luftwaffe Flak unit that seems to have spent the war defending Bremen (http://www.ww2.dk/ground/flak/abt/s606.html). It therefore appears that the unit that was in Africa was Fla. Btl. 606.
I would point out, however, that all this is only possible- there's no way to know for sure whether the soldier who carried this disc was in Africa; men were transferred all over during the war. The only way to know for sure is if the German WASt was to have this guy's service record, which should have the field units in which he served. Such a search has a fee, and, as we've stated before, none of us is certain they'll give out information to non-family members.
I hope this all helps.
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