Warning: session_start(): open(/var/cpanel/php/sessions/ea-php74/sess_72ca6174f750c8b9084c05d4c7966771361034003c8fa2b9, O_RDWR) failed: No space left on device (28) in /home/devwehrmacht/public_html/forums/includes/vb5/frontend/controller/page.php on line 71 Warning: session_start(): Failed to read session data: files (path: /var/cpanel/php/sessions/ea-php74) in /home/devwehrmacht/public_html/forums/includes/vb5/frontend/controller/page.php on line 71 ID on dog tag please :) - Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums
oorlogsspullen

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

ID on dog tag please :)

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Page of 1
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous template Next
    #1

    ID on dog tag please :)

    hello !!

    I know that ST/G.E.B. 485 is for Grenadier ers. battalion but I cant find out what Wehrkreis this unit belonged to.. or what combat unit...

    me !!
    Last edited by Kuligow; 01-17-2004, 09:01 PM.
    Tags: None
    #2
    Infanterie-Ersatz-Bataillon 485
    Formed 26.8.1939 in Heidelberg, Wehrkreis XII; 11.11.1939 transferred to Sieradz/Warthegau in WK XXI; 22.8.1940 returned to WK XII at Wittlich, from 10.7.1941 to Toul in east France, 28.4.1942 to Langres and 15.10.1942 to St. Die; On 15.10.1942 divided into Ersatz and Ausbildungs Bataillon; the Ersatz Bataillon transferred 1.11.1942 to St. Mihiel;
    25.11.1942 renamed Grenadier Ersatz Bataillon 485; 6.12.1943 transferred to St. Avold; September 1944 with formation of Kampfgruppen dissolved.

    Under: Division 182; 11.7.1942 Division Nanzig; 15.10.1942 Division 462 Replacement troops for 263 Infanterie Division (4th wave)

    /Ian
    Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

    Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

    Comment

      #3
      Hi Mike,

      For the most part, the number an Ersatz unit supplied troops to the field Regiment of the same number, although a good portion of them, especially Infanterie/Grenadier units, apparently supplied 2 or more field units- 'The Replacement Army' states that yours, for example, supplied Grenadier Regiments 485 and 546 (389. Infanterie Division). To what extent replacements were 'shared' I really have no idea, so I just generally default to the same number.

      Matt

      Comment

        #4
        Thank You very much guys !!!

        I assume that ST is for stamm kompanie ??
        WHERE from I can get sucha detailed info ??? is there any speciall book I can buy... ??? what sources You are using ?? (hope this is not a secret ?? )

        Comment

          #5
          Hi Mike,

          You're quite welcome- happy to help. It's hard to say whether 'ST' stands for 'Stammkompanie' or 'Stab' (Staff)- I'm more inclined to believe that it's 'Stab', rather than 'Stammkompanie', as the latter seems to be more usually written out at least as 'Stamm. kp.'- possibly so as to not be confused with 'Stabskompanie'. I have a disc marked 'ST./ J. R. 48' that I would expect is rather more likely 'Stab' than 'Stammkompanie' as I'm not eve sure a field unit would have a Stammkompanie...

          The references I use are 'The German Army Order of Battle: The Replacement Army, 1939-1945' Madej, W. Victor, ed., (out of print, I believe) for listings of all the Ersatz units and the field units they supplied, Tessin's multi-volume set of all the Wehrmacht units (in German, and very expensive) and Jean Höidal's book 'Erkennungsmarken des Zweiten Weltkrieges' (in German, and available)

          Matt



          Matt

          Comment

            #6
            I'll agree with Matt in that ST. would not typically stand for "Stamm", but rather usually "Stab". Most commonly Stamm but also.... ST. also stands for Sturm or Staffel, but I have never seen it for Stamm.

            Cheers,

            Comment

              #7
              I got it finally it's very nice untouched dog tag - came with this oberschutze patch
              its hard to see details on scan.. it sayz:
              ST/G.E.B.485
              NR.801 A
              Attached Files

              Comment

                #8
                That's a very nice set Mike


                Matt

                Comment

                Previous template Next

                Users Viewing this Thread

                Collapse

                There is currently 1 user online. 0 members and 1 guests.

                Most users ever online was 10,032 at 08:13 PM on 09-28-2024.

                Working...
                X