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**DOC_KÜSTENART** · 07-31-2007, 08:25 AM

**FestungSpanien** · 07-31-2007, 09:07 AM

Whoever said that to you talks chinese. Aluminium ID existed.
Yours stands for Batallón de Reserva de Infantería n9, primera compañía.
The low soldiers number 232 denotes that he was not a simple soldier,could have been an NCO.
Sorry,no more info that can provide you with.
Viva España!

**DOC_KÜSTENART** · 07-31-2007, 09:16 AM

AhAhaH ok, any idea of where this unit served??

**Frontalschaden** · 07-31-2007, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by Doc_panzerjager View Post

Until a guy of a militaria shop of my town told me that it was fake because "germans only wore iron IDs on WW2"

Hello

This is utter nonsense !

At the beginning of the war, alluminium was standart, than in the later war, zinc became standart.
Iron dogtags (normal Iron an stainless steel) were rare as dogtags, but they still exists. I think only 1-3% of german soldiers have worn iron dogtags. Over 90 % have worn zinc and alluminium.

Here some infos about the bataillon:

Infanterie-Ersatz-Bataillon 9

1. Aufstellung:

* 28.8.1939 in Potsdam, wird 11.9.1942 umgegliedert in Panzergrenadier-Ersatz-Bataillon 9.

2. Unterstellung:

Division 153 Ersatztruppe für 23. Infanterie-Division

Remember !
This was the training unit of the soldier, not the field (combat) unit. This dogtag unit has nothing to do, with his field unit.

At last:

The dogtag is original. 101 %

Best regards, Fronti

**DOC_KÜSTENART** · 07-31-2007, 01:57 PM

Many many thanks Fronti
I apreciate your interesting information
Cheers!!

**PzV** · 07-31-2007, 02:48 PM

aluminum dog tag

Fronti is correct. I have about 100 dogtags in my collection with almost half of them being aluminum, almost the other half zinc and only a handfull in steel. If you are uncertain about a dogtag it is often best to stay away from it. A tip on original aluminum dogtags: look at the eyelets for wear as the material was rather soft. If the cord is still on it (or was on it) it was often wrapped around the dogtag after the war and the salt in the cord (from sweat) corrodes the aluminum. You will often see "stripes" of corrosion from this chemical reaction. Don't buy highly corroded or "dug" dogtags as these are often looted from graves and the greed to make money on these "dug" dogtags often means that the soldier will never be identified!

**DOC_KÜSTENART** · 07-31-2007, 02:53 PM

Ok Pzv thanks for the information and the advices, I'll take care

BTW I bought the cord by separate

**Frontalschaden** · 07-31-2007, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by PzV View Post

[...]Don't buy highly corroded or "dug" dogtags as these are often looted from graves and the greed to make money on these "dug" dogtags often means that the soldier will never be identified![...]

Thats not right.

99% of all grounddugs are not from graves, they are out of POW camps and were thrown away by the soldiers.

But you are right, wenn you say, that heavily corroded dogtags could be from graves. But these "gravetags" are not normal corroded, they are corroded in another way. (black marbled/marmorate)

And you are right, that it is a shame, to steel a identity of a fallen soldier.

Best regards, Fronti

**DOC_KÜSTENART** · 07-31-2007, 07:00 PM

Hi fronti, any picture of the diferences of a grave found ID and another one that doesn't comes from a grave? I think that it's an interesting point if we don't want to make the enormous mistake of leaving a soldier "missing" forever
Best regards
Doc

**legionitalia** · 08-04-2007, 05:08 PM

Here is a pic of the 3 types:
Top, Iron
Middle, Aluminum
Bottom, Zinc
Hope that shows that the guy you talked with is not informed!
Regards,
-Tony

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**DOC_KÜSTENART** · 08-05-2007, 09:46 AM

Of course it helps, thanks a lot
I think that guy only wanted to hurt me

Doc

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