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Interesting and informative thread!

If anyone got a soldbuch or wehrpass from Treblinka I would be interested in purchasing it! I have read a scaring eye witness book about the camp by a french author. I have also been on site 2003. Its a silent place in a forested area north of Warsawa. In the tiny village with the name Treblinka it seems like the time has stood still since WW2. But what remains today of the camp is only what the soviets restored after the WW2.

So, any soldbuch, wehrpass to show from Treblinka or possible for sale?

"Felix" - N. Hansson

Hi Felix,

Unfortunately I do not have a Treblinka WP or SB however, I do have an original photograph of Lorenz Hackenholt whose name was put to the gas chambers in Treblinka (Hackenholt Foundation).

Graham

[peter u]

Hello Graham,

Thanks again for sharing your collection so that future collectors could have a reference how a good KL document should look!
And I think that with the number of people who viewed this thread we are achieving that target.

Questions:

On the poor conditioned wp: are there citations on pages 32 & 33?
He has similar career as my Bergen-Belsen sb. So I would like to compare.

The Dachau sb: How do you know he was detained in Dachau himself at the end of the war and do you know for which reason (theft,alcohol abuse, coruption,...etc)?

Greetings and again congratulations with your collection.
Peter

[peter u]

Hello Graham,

If you got the water damaged wp in the 90's his transfer should be on 1.1.45 to wachbatallion Sachsenhausen like with all the other examples I have seen (look also at Polux wp posted in this thread), al these mittelbau/sachsenhausen wp's came from the same source, probabily a full archivebox was found and put on the market by some dealer.
I also think the compleet staffing archive of KL Sachsenhausen found his way to the market in the second half of the 90's. The mayority of the KL-related wp's I have seen came from this scource, like I all ready said on this thread the Belgian militaria fairs were overflowed with this type of wp in the 96-97 periode.

Greetings Peter

[peter u]

Hello Graham,

I just did a bit of reading and found out that "trawniki" was a laborcamp for jews in the district of Lublin. The remaning Jews that were still alife in this camp and the others in the Lublin area were exterminated by mass shooting parties on 3/11/1943, this action was under the leading of the SD responsible for the district of Lublin and under the codename " harvest home".
Your guy was actif in this camp after this action was carried out, what his task was in this probabily empty camp I don't know.

Peter

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Peter, like Graham, I think he would have been involved in training during his time at Trawniki.

Cheers, Ade.

[peter u]

hello Adrian,

Thanks for your answer, but I don't think he was there to under go training.
The citation in his wp is "ausbildungslager Trawiki" not "ss ausbildungs abteilung ### " in my opinion he is doing guard duty in this camp that is most likely occupied by Rusian pow's or Polish prisoners that have to do maintenance work in this camp that has found a new purpose for the German war effort now the jews are exterminated an thus not longer occupy this baraks facility. But again I'am not sure on this one.
Graham did you do more research on this subjet-matter?

Peter

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Hi Peter,

Thank you very much for the info regarding the transfer date to Sachsenhausen. Although the entry cannot be read, I think you are right. I have another KL WP and that guard was transfered to Sachsenhausen on the same date. Well spotted!!

There are no entries on p32-33 in the bad condition WP, but p26 is full of notes apertaining to his service in the T.Inf Rgt. Unfortunately, this is too badly water damaged to make any decent sense of.

I still believe he was either being trained or acting as an instructor during his 2 months at Trawniki. It seems a little 'odd' that a career guard be taken all the way from Neuengamme to guard Russian POW's, when there were numerous detachments of 'Trawnikis' or 'Askaris' in the camp itself or close by in the surrounding area.

Unfortunately, I have not had time to research any of my WP or SB, but hope to do so one day. I have several other KL WP in my collection, including ones from Auschwitz I, Auschwitz II Birkenau and Auschwitz III Monowitz. The latter being my latest purchase and which happens to be the WP that started this thread!! I will endeavour to photograph and post these when I get more time.

The guard who became a prisoner in Dachau, was actually a POW of the allies (his POW number 31G...) and was issued extra clothing and equipment for work in Nov '45.

Graham

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Another example

Vogt started out with the TK Division and was wounded early in the Russian campain. He then served with the Hochgebirgschule d. WSS. He was transfered to the Como equipement office of the WSS. From there he went to the SS T.Wachbatl Sachsenhausen and finally with SS Wirtschafts-Verwaltungsamt-Amtsgruppe D-Konzentrationslagers.

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