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    1/2 Schinkel EK2 WW2?

    Team,

    id appreciate some feedback on this EK2 I picked up on Saturday. Its been pretty slow and had a decent little pick up. A few people I showed it to think it could be a 1/2 schinkle... i'll look in my EK2 book but id appreciate some comments either way.

    Its not marked and is a nice little EK2 regardless. If it is a 1/2 Schinkle what makes it one? Is it a ww1 frame with a ww2 center or what is it? Sorry for all the questions, but as many of you know I'm far from a medal guy. I bought this because it stood out to me and had a nice look about it. Looking forward to the comments.

    Matt
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      #3
      Excuse my ignorance, but what is a "1/2 Schinkel"?

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        #4
        Half Schinkel or Intermedia Schinkel as it is sometimes called looks like this

        Your cross is not a Halb Schinkel, sorry.

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          Originally posted by Dansson View Post
          Half Schinkel or Intermedia Schinkel as it is sometimes called looks like this

          Your cross is not a Halb Schinkel, sorry.
          Dansson,

          thank you for the response! I didn't think it was much of a Schinkel but id rather ask the question first. Any idea of a specific maker? Matt

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            Hí Matt
            Dansson is right this is a not so called half schinkle type but IMO this is a S&L

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              #7
              IMO this cross looks like unmarked Boerger's (=22)

              Regards
              Jarek

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                Originally posted by Dansson View Post
                Your cross is not a Halb Schinkel, sorry.
                "Half Schinkel" or "Intermediate Schinkel" are completely impossible terms.

                They can't possibly mean anything at all.

                A Schinkel is a cross made of a pre-WWII frame and a 1939 core.

                There is no intermediate step between an Imperial cross and a Schinkel, and none between a Schinkel and a WWII-type (so-called "LDO") cross. The Schinkel is the intermediate step, the transitional type.

                What could a "Half Schinkel" possibly mean
                Best regards,
                Streptile

                Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                  It was mentioned by a couple of folks and so I figured I would ask. I don't collect EKs or medals for that matter, so I asked the question as I have no idea what it could be either.

                  I appreciate your informative information on what a Schinkel is, thank you for that. I don't even pretend to get all the weird variants of EKs, there are way too many and it seems like only a handful of people ever agree on what variant it is. I don't understand the weird cores and why companies switched them out and I guess it doesn't matter that much to me as a cloth guy. I simply buy these because people like them and they tend to flip over quick enough if I can get them priced reasonably.

                  That said, thank you for the information as I learn something every time I post an ek up. Matt

                  Originally posted by streptile View Post
                  "Half Schinkel" or "Intermediate Schinkel" are completely impossible terms.

                  They can't possibly mean anything at all.

                  A Schinkel is a cross made of a pre-WWII frame and a 1939 core.

                  There is no intermediate step between an Imperial cross and a Schinkel, and none between a Schinkel and a WWII-type (so-called "LDO") cross. The Schinkel is the intermediate step, the transitional type.

                  What could a "Half Schinkel" possibly mean

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                    Hi Trevor, I know exactly what you mean and I am aware of this
                    But as far as I remembe, this cross doesn't have a other name, or?

                    Best regards,
                    Daniel


                    Originally posted by streptile View Post
                    "Half Schinkel" or "Intermediate Schinkel" are completely impossible terms.

                    They can't possibly mean anything at all.

                    A Schinkel is a cross made of a pre-WWII frame and a 1939 core.

                    There is no intermediate step between an Imperial cross and a Schinkel, and none between a Schinkel and a WWII-type (so-called "LDO") cross. The Schinkel is the intermediate step, the transitional type.

                    What could a "Half Schinkel" possibly mean

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                      Originally posted by streptile View Post
                      "Half Schinkel" or "Intermediate Schinkel" are completely impossible terms.

                      They can't possibly mean anything at all.

                      A Schinkel is a cross made of a pre-WWII frame and a 1939 core.

                      There is no intermediate step between an Imperial cross and a Schinkel, and none between a Schinkel and a WWII-type (so-called "LDO") cross. The Schinkel is the intermediate step, the transitional type.

                      What could a "Half Schinkel" possibly mean

                      Naming of this cross was already repeatedly discussed on our forum - its proper name is "SCHINKEL UNKNOWN MAKER"

                      Regards
                      Jarek

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                        #12
                        I agree here completly with Streptile regarding the "Therms".

                        We have just a "Schinkel", as described by Streptile, or an EK in the granted shape of 1939.
                        All other therms are absolute nonsence.

                        Franki

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