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    Knights cross and Spanish cross in bronze - authenticity help requested

    Greetings everyone,

    I have been watching and reading these forums for a couple of months and see the value of information and knowledge that is stored here. Now I registered and come to you with a request for help. I am planning on moving out of my WW2 German collection towards my WW1 German heritage and as such I am parting with a large portion of my WW2 German medal collection. I wish to know if these items are originals or fakes.

    I bought them about 10 years ago from a collector who worked for "Academy coins & Militaria". They were sold to me under the premise of being originals, except for the Knights cross which he was not sure. As I was starting collecting back then, I didn't know much about the fakes. I had heard some stories but that was my extent of knowledge on the subject.

    I posted on a militaria forum I frequent and everyone recommended I come here to seek assistance.

    I also have a gold wound badge, Afrika korp cuff title, and a Luftwaffe ground assault badge that I will be posting the appropriate sub forums, and that I wish to ask for authenticity help with.

    I appreciate any and all help that you experts can provide.

    Knights Cross with ribbon, as compared to my Iron Cross 2nd class:































    Spanish civil war cross in bronze:





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    #2
    The Knights Cross is definitely a fake

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      #3
      The KC is a post-war Souval and the SC is just but ugly IMHO.

      cheers
      Peter

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        #4
        I`m sorry, but the spanish cross is a 100% fake


        best regards,
        Martin

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          #5
          Sorry, but both are post-war copies.

          Bob Hritz
          In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

          Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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            #6
            Dipping 3 Souval, which is the pick of the fillers. This one hasn't been finished so nicely along the edges

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              #7
              KC fake and SC bad

              Hope you didn't get your clocked cleaned but the postwar Souval KC might be desirable to a collector of Rudolf Souval postwar creations. But and yet for a tiny fraction of what an originals value is.

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                #8
                both repros

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                  #9
                  Greetings gentlemen. Thank you for responding and having a look at the medals in question.

                  I am happy I did not pay out the nose for these when I was starting out. In the last few years, I have seen some poor copies surface as you all have mentioned are out there.

                  I just never got around to posting images of the medals and getting them appraised so I am very happy to finally know the truth behind them.

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                    #10
                    Date design on that EK-2 looks very close to date on Souval's RK, "3" is very similar.


                    .....is it postwar Souval EK-2?

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                      #11
                      Hello again everyone,

                      I am just curious. I looked at another post with a Spanish cross confirmed as an original then I looked back at the one posted here but I don't see what makes it stand out as a post war fake ? Is it the feathers on the eagles or the placement of the swastika ?

                      Thank you for your time.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Alikn View Post
                        Date design on that EK-2 looks very close to date on Souval's RK, "3" is very similar.


                        .....is it postwar Souval EK-2?
                        Nope, the Ek2 are made by #75 Unknown maker..

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Snni View Post
                          Nope, the Ek2 are made by #75 Unknown maker..
                          Agreed, good EK2.

                          best
                          Hank
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