Knight Crosses today

[sdesember]

micro 800 with long 3 core

Painted frosting?

[kraut72]

of course

[sdesember]

of course

How's the rim, is it heavily flawed on the 3oc arm?

[Tom B]

And this is a photo of General József Heszlényi

Wonderful & rare photo !

[kraut72]

not,without dieflaws

pics just worn frosting

How's the rim, is it heavily flawed on the 3oc arm?

[Leroy]

Knights Crosses pulled from stocks by employees of the PKZ for award were pulled in no specific "order" as could be related to time of manufacture or delivery to the PKZ. They were pulled at random, IMO.

[kraut72]

exactly...

one precedent

awards period

may 1944. 3-6 clock flaws

november-oktober 1944. without flaws

[sdesember]

General Balck, then the Commander of the 6.Armee, recommended and personally handed the Ritterkreuz to Szügyi, according to the article in the "Ritterkreuz Archiv" (RA). I was thinking, before Leroy's post, that the Armee might have had some supplies of Ritterkreuzes from the PKZ and that these might be consisted of earlier produced RK, viz. the "no flaw" S&L since I thought the PKZ employees might, perhaps, have had stacked the RKs with the newly arrived ones at the top and older ones at the bottom. And, that at some point earlier in the war when the stack of the "no flaw" S&Ls came in, there were some that were distributed to the Armee level. But, I don't think this assumption is possible as the availability of the local supplies, viz. at the Armee, was only possible at the earliest was at April'45, according to DM's book.

PS: Interestingly, I've since found out that the same author in the "RA", Kovács, also wrote "Die ungarische Inhaber des Ritterkreuzes des Eks". Would anybody know whether the book also show the Ritterkreuz pieces of the recipients?

[sdesember]

exactly...

one precedent

awards period

may 1944. 3-6 clock flaws

november-oktober 1944. without flaws

Who are the recipients of the above you mentioned? Would it be possible to know BTW?

[Tom B]

Knights Crosses pulled from stocks by employees of the PKZ for award were pulled in no specific "order" as could be related to time of manufacture or delivery to the PKZ. They were pulled at random, IMO.

I agree with you 100% !! There is no way of telling a production date as related to award date ! Totally Random ! Tom

[Sepp45]

RK formal award document to Hauptmann der Reserve Hans Pfeiffer
Führer 2./PiBtl 97
Presented on: January 26th, 1942

(Photo credits to Weitze.net)

[Sepp45]

Oak Leaves preliminary award document to Hauptsturmführer Bruno Hinz
Kompaniechef 2. / SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 38 / 17.SS-Panzergrenadier-Division "Götz von Berlichingen"
Presented on: August 23rd, 1944

A color photo of this document, from the publications of "DMZ - Deutsche Militärzeitschrift". Credits to them

[Sepp45]

RK preliminary award document to Hauptmann Hans-Georg Borck
Chef 3. / Panzer-Pionier-Bataillon 209 / 11.Panzer-Division
Presented on: December 23rd, 1943

[stdrbs14]

Damn I wish I had his tunic. Love that pic

[Sepp45]

RK formal award document to SS-Hauptsturmführer Fritz Rentrop
Chef 2. / SS-Flak-Abteilung 2 "Reich"
Presented on: October 13th, 1941

(Photo credits to Kai-Winkler)