B-type Schinkel EK2 with round 3 -> Yippieh

[Douglas 5]

Yes Robert ... realy lucked out on that one in more ways than one .
The jump ring on mine is stamped with an " S " ! To me that would indicate S for ' Silber' . Judging by the wear and 'softness ' of the wear ... probably 800 or maybe 900 fine silver ? Some variations exist .
I am sticking with S & L as the maker of these .

Douglas

[Robert P.]

I guess the obvious question would be, why S&L, Douglas? Do you see something in the dates, the beading...? Just curious as to why you believe S&L.

Robert

[streptile]

I have two, both attributed. I love them
Trevor, Deschler is a good choice but what makes you so sure? Do you have any solid proof?
Kimd regards,
Stefan

Yes I do

[ben bijker]

Yes I do

Prove it!!!

[streptile]

OK, ok... give me some time .

[ben bijker]

OK, ok... give me some time.

Well, alright...
Will 20 minutes do???

[StefanK.]

in the meantime i want to show you one of mine; awarded on 27th of September 1939 to


Robert von Malapert

[Douglas 5]

Very nice one StefanK. Yours too has the modified 1st core in it .
Are the cut outs on the Swastika tapered on yours ? Cannot tell from this face on shot ?

Douglas

[Douglas 5]

Needed to ask also :

Douglas

[Douglas 5]

Robert :Have not forgotten about your question . My place is full of company right now and therefor can only reply infrequently .
2 manufacturers to the same cross ..... now that is going to be interesting . I have shown this picture of mine quit a few times , but no one has ever questioned or pointed out the (maker) mark on mine . ... between the date and swastika ! At that spot the core is hand stamped with the early S&L logo mark -- on the core as it could not fit anywhere else .
Interesting size and this large mark is hard to place/stamp evenly . Being rare to find and mostly likely forced immediatly to stop marking --- the mark on the working die was polished out which left a raised spot that can be see on some . The stipling and paint obscured the mark some what .

Douglas

[Douglas 5]

There were quit a few S&L logo variations used over the years .
Hard to see but the mark can be seen when looking at it .... and the close up .

Douglas

[Robert P.]

Douglas, I'm not familiar with that mark; you must be. Do you have photos of other badges, etc. with this same mark on them, or a picture of S&L's company logo from a pre-'45 catalog or something?

Robert

[Douglas 5]

Variation or adaptation of : the 'S ' on the party pin is solid ... the mark on the core is has an open center with a line top and botom , ... as I drew out .

Douglas

[morel5000]

Interesting cross type. I always thought that the term Schinkel was used for crosses made with left -over frames (the true Schinkel type cross, the design that stood a century - 1813 -1870 -1914). So what makes this a Schinkel? This is not a ww1 frame that I am aware of...

Best regards,
Michel

[Albert]

Here is mine, also LW, in its natural setting: