EK 1 mm 100 Core Question

[Indycollector]

All:
I have a EK 1 mm100 see attached images. This Ek1 appears to have all of the correct hardware, maker marke etc. See photos. It also has the pinched beads, cross hatching on the frame corners. My question is regarding the core. It does not appear to have the typical mm100 core per the size of the numbers in the 1939 date. (see photos) Thoughts? Is this a good one?

Thanks, Indycollector

[Indycollector]

more pictures

more photos of ek1 mm 100 for review

[streptile]

Truly frightening, but fake in my opinion. Can you please show a photo of the whole cross? There are other "tells" for a W&L frame.

[Indycollector]

more pictures

Magnetic Core and multi piece construction just like they are supposed to be.

[streptile]

Phew!

Man, I just don't know yet about this one. I was checking the top (12 o'clock) beading rim to see if it had W&L's traditional "high bead count" -- I certainly expected it not to, but I can't quite tell, it may have it indeed.

I hate to be difficult, but is there any way you can get a shot of the front in better focus? Or a good scan?

Also, to help our discussion, here is a quick montage of marks. Yours on the left, an authentic one in the middle (thanks, Stefan), and then a fake mark on the right.

I would really like to hear from others on this cross.

[Indycollector]

pics requested

here are the pictures requested. Tried to take a close up of the 12:00 position as well as the rest of the cross.

[Indycollector]

Scan

scan

[kriztof]

Phew!
Man, I just don't know yet about this one.

I'm afraid I'm in the same boat, I've been looking and comparing, possibly too much as I'm now seeing mirages

For me, the frame appears W&L but the beading doesn't and the core does but doesn't Maybe it's a super rare first strike or something but I don't know.

If it was me deciding whether or not to buy this one I would probably pass due to the odd beading and rounded inner corners and stick with a safer model with proven characteristics.

Maybe Douglas will recognize this one.

Chris

[5tefan]

Not easy too see! But the date 1939 is too far away from the frame!
And I don't like the frame structure!

[Indycollector]

Ek1 mm 100

Thanks for the input thus far. I am uploading and viewing photos on a Mac and I pad. The photos are very clear for me. Are they difficult to see for others? The last one I posted was a scan, is it clearer than the photos, again very clear from my view.

[kriztof]

Hi Indy, the photos are good enough thanks, it's the cross that has thrown a curve into us
There are enough missing characteristics to make me wary of this one, as Stefan has stated, even the date doesn't match known W&L.



Chris

[kriztof]

Comparison..

[Indycollector]

Kriztof :

This one is throwing me for a loop as well! It has some char for w&l and some missing as you state. As somebody else mentioned "kind of and kind of not". Have had this in my collection and purchased before I was educated in such details regarding ek's. As it does not fit the typical, wanted to post for other opinions. If this is a fake, it is a very well made fake. Down right frightening. At the time of purchase even though it was a couple hundred $, did not pay top dollar as they are going for today, still very disappointing, but not a HUGE financial loss if it is indeed a fake. This thing does not even match fake mm's. Going to have Dietrich take a look at during the SOS.

[fabri-online]

Hello
back is really close to the original W&L but front is clearly fake.

[Douglas 5]

I have to go with -- not original W&L too .

Douglas