knights cross of war merit cross and knights cross -genuine or not?

[chillybrute]

I purchased these a month or so ago from uk-militaria.com now called www.ukmsales.com
Do you consider these to be the genuine item? i have carried out the "burn" test on loose threads and they passed ok..
The descriptions were- GERMAN 1939 CASED KNIGHTS CROSS. FINE EXAMPLE OF THE SCARCE WW2 GERMAN KNIGHTS CROSS. IRON CENTRE RETAINING NEARLY ALL ITS BLACK FINISH. SWATIKA FLUSH TO THE FRAME. SILVER WITH AN UNPOLISHED DARK PATINA. MARKED 800 TO THE TOP OF THE REVERSE. SUSPENDER ALSO MARKED 800. WITH CENTRE SECTION OF THE NECK RIBBON. BLACK VELVET LINE PRESENTATION CASE. ALL IN EXCELLENT UNTOUCHED
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CASED KNIGHTS CROSS OF THE WAR MERIT CROSS. VERY RARE AWARD, THE GERMAN WARTIME EQUIVILANT OF THE GEORGE CROSS. HEAVY SILVER CROSS STAMPED 50 TO THE TOP OF THE BACK. IN CRISP CLEAN CONDITION. WITH FULL LENGTH OF NECK RIBBON AND TIES. IN ITS BLACK BOOK LEATHER COVERED PRESENTATION CASE. THE CASE, 180 BY 150MM
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[kraut72]

Chillybrute

Your KC not war time made piece,postwar fake

[Luis22]

the KC was not well soldered..you can see one piece on top of the other one ,,,

[iron_cross67]

Both fakes Mick
For sale here also. http://ww2medalsbadgesandinsignia.co...-Museum-Copies

[Ludwig]

IMO both are bad!

[Exile]

Neither of those look very promising to me.

What did you pay for them?

Matt

[Jody]

RKs

Hello,
I don't like either cross. They would not be for me. BTW, I just took a brief look at his web-site and he has a lot of junk for sale. His 1st pattern S-boot and Destroyers badge are both bad and that was with a quick 30 second look.

Regards,
Jody

[Adrian]

This dealer does not enjoy the best reputation. As Jody says, he sells junk. You would be well advised to carry out more research before you spend your money!

[Rommel1933]

ugh.. so disappointing

[Flemming]

Hi Chillybrute.

Welcome to this forum

But regarding the 2 shown medals, I really hope that you can get your moeny back, as both are in my opinion reproductions.

/Flemming

[AndyC]

Ooops two bad ones, hope that you could your money back


Andy

[chillybrute]

oh well

Thanks for your input guys.. i've been conned ! I doubt i will get my money back ..I suppose it was too good to be true as i paid approx £400 each (i thought it was a final clearout sale) so could have been worse ..

[Exile]

Thanks for your input guys.. i've been conned ! I doubt i will get my money back ..I suppose it was too good to be true as i paid approx £400 each (i thought it was a final clearout sale) so could have been worse ..

Count yourself lucky, and next time remember to do some research before buying. Some research on the price alone would have given away that they were fake.

A genuine cased RK would be £6000+ and a genuine RK KVK would be £4000+.



Matt

[Jon Fish]

Oh dear, price is the key here mate,no way will you get an original KC from a dealer for £400! If it appears too good to be true it usually is!!!!
Don't give up on it though, you should get your money back !

[Ludwig]

Pay him a visit and if he doesn´t return your money... Beat the **** out of him!!!