GErmann Cross Gold 20 Zimmermann

[Schuasta]

Next time i think i will offer this Cross on the E-Stand. Before i will discuss about here:

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[all1knew]

Hello there,

Looks good!

William Kramer

[panzer wittman]

Hi
I'd raise a couple of questions with this dkig.

The closest Zimmermann I can find in features is the light cupal version.

However, close as it is there's a few discrepancies.

1) the typical Zimmermann c-catch is the wrong shape. Either it has been bent (though it doesn't look long enough), it has a part snapped off or it's just wrong for the Zimmermann style.
2) regarding the 1941 date - there appear to be extra die flaws on the tops of the 9 and the 4 that aren't typical.
3) the wreath leaves at the 11 o'clock and 3 o'clock positions seem indistinct.
4)the catch plate looks raised which again is odd.
5) I honestly can't see the tell-tale Zimmermann 11 o'clock starburst flaw.
Honestly not trying to be picky. I'd pass this one to herr maerz for an opinion. While some bits match, and some bits may be the pics, the catch doesn't look right to me IMHO.
Regards
Pw

[AndyC]

Hi

There is a flaw 11 o clock
You can see it in this photo
Its a fine Zimmermann for me



Andy

[Darrell]

Hi
I'd raise a couple of questions with this dkig.

The closest Zimmermann I can find in features is the light cupal version.

However, close as it is there's a few discrepancies.

1) the typical Zimmermann c-catch is the wrong shape. Either it has been bent (though it doesn't look long enough), it has a part snapped off or it's just wrong for the Zimmermann style.
2) regarding the 1941 date - there appear to be extra die flaws on the tops of the 9 and the 4 that aren't typical.
3) the wreath leaves at the 11 o'clock and 3 o'clock positions seem indistinct.
4)the catch plate looks raised which again is odd.
5) I honestly can't see the tell-tale Zimmermann 11 o'clock starburst flaw.
Honestly not trying to be picky. I'd pass this one to herr maerz for an opinion. While some bits match, and some bits may be the pics, the catch doesn't look right to me IMHO.
Regards
Pw

I think you're in need of sleep.

The catch is wrong?
It's perfectly normal.
The plate is raised?
It is perfectly normal.
The 1941 die flaws are unusual?
It is normal.

Here's another catch from one of my collection. Catches are not going to be exactly the same. I've seen these in the same shape on numerous crosses on the light versions.

[Darrell]

Closeup of the date:

[panzer wittman]

Hi
Thanks for answering the points raised. If you're happy with the variations then that's great news. I've learned something and i hope the seller gets a great price.
And yes... I do need more sleep lol!

[Schuasta]

Many thanks for the comments...its a nice untouched 20er Germann Cross !

[Darrell]

Hi
Thanks for answering the points raised. If you're happy with the variations then that's great news. I've learned something and i hope the seller gets a great price.
And yes... I do need more sleep lol!

Not sure you call these "variations". Die flaws are different depending on the age of the dies. No two catch or hinge is ever exactly the same. These things were put together by hand ... not a machine.

[Dietrich Maerz]

It is a perfectly fine Zimmermann.

Dietrich

[D Funk]

Nice Original!