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    EK1/Spange Combo Details

    Hi all, detailed shots of my CD800 spange combo as promised, any comments of advice gratefully received.

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    Spange closeup.
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      #3
      The following two photos show the means of attachment of the combo. There is no solder between the base of the spange and the cross. As can be seen, there are two short bars which appear to be a silver alloy. These look to be proffesionally fitted to the base of the spange and then neatly soldered to the reverse of the cross.
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        Further detail.
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          #5
          Thanks for viewing, look forward to your learned feedback.

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            #6
            Hi Glenn,

            for what its worth, i like it. Looks VERY convincing and i like the patina. Were this combos all private purchases?
            best,
            Gerd

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              #7
              I believe so Gerd, they fall into 2 categories, so called "jeweller" made like this one and certain firms made LDO pieces with 1939 produced EK1's. Big question with jeweller pieces is when were they assembled.

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                #8
                Dear Glenn,

                What irritates me (if this is a Jeweller made example) is the fact that the spange shows no traces of ever having a hinge or catch attached to the body of the spange. Strange.
                Cheers, Frank

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                  Hi Frank, thanks for the reply. It does actually show marks where there was a hinge and catch. For the life of me I can't get a clear photo but half of the hinge mark is visible in this photo. To the left of the centre (not visible on this pic) is an identical mark. There is also a minor mark where the catch was. The reverse appears to have then been finely polished to minimise the markings.
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                    Originally posted by Glenn R
                    I believe so Gerd, they fall into 2 categories, so called "jeweller" made like this one and certain firms made LDO pieces with 1939 produced EK1's. Big question with jeweller pieces is when were they assembled.
                    Thanks

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                      #11
                      Ok, quite obvious now, Glenn, thanks.
                      Cheers, Frank

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                        #12
                        That is a pretty nice piece. I don't think I've ever seen a Spange attached to a cross in such a fashion before with such minimal soldering and small attachment devices. Very delicately done!

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                          #13
                          Thanks Eric.

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                            #14
                            Any more thoughts to offer on the construction of ths piece gents?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Glenn R
                              Any more thoughts to offer on the construction of ths piece gents?
                              I don't want to throw a spanner in the works but... in the search for truth, we've got to come in from all angles!
                              I thought the general consensus was that these combo's without a long pin, or a top hook, were more than likely post war assembled, by the mere fact that they would be impractical to wear. And (as mentioned) that there is no way to determine when these two pieces were joined. I could take an IC and a spange to my local jewellers tomorrow and replicate this exactly. I'm sure it would add to the combined values.
                              Where did it come from?
                              It's looks beautiful, but...
                              regards
                              Jon

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