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    Diamonds for sale

    Up in an auctionhouse in are so called "B"-type diamonds for sale.

    The price is 39.999 Euro

    Any chance or just a bluff??
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    Here is the Link.

    http://www.militaria321.com/auktion/...%20Brillanten?

    BTW, I am not the seller or responsible for this auction in any way.


    Mathias
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      #3
      The COA is from Detlef Niemann

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        #4
        That "piece" does not look like the ones I have seen and handled. And I handled quite a few genuine ones.
        I certainly hope that the "Expertise" from Niemann is a fake ... If that is a good expertise from Niemann, well ....
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          #5
          Originally posted by Dietrich Maerz View Post
          That "piece" does not look like the ones I have seen and handled. And I handled quite a few genuine ones.
          I certainly hope that the "Expertise" from Niemann is a fake ... If that is a good expertise from Niemann, well ....
          Dietrich as I wondered on a thread in Luft medals section, heres a link. http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=427065 what good is a Niemann COA at this point? So a bad piece with a worthlees piece of paper? reading the first post in the linked thread one would think Carston is backing these old COA's which I think is unbelievable!
          Regards!
          Kevin
          Last edited by WEISNER; 09-09-2010, 01:54 PM. Reason: further thought

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            #6
            do his expertise documents not normally have a hologram instead of that stamp---was a time when you just had to worry about fake medals etc.

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              #7
              I noticed almost/all of Niemanns CoA with text at the end: "Toleranzen sind moghlich" are faked. I already discuss this with Detlev and he confirmed. Many of these certificates are for sell in europe these days.

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                #8
                A fake set!

                I doubt Niemann wrote that COA.

                Let´s imagine you had a diamond set... Would you sell it at Militaria321???

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                  #9
                  my COA are looking very different
                  look ?



                  did not make all to nice pictures as I don't want to help any copier off the document
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                    #10
                    I also have a document that shows that Detlev Niemann is not taking any chances on originality


                    look,,,
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                      #11
                      Hi Nick, I think DN used to have the stamp earlier, and later changed it to the hologram when crooks started to copy the stamped versions.

                      Originally posted by nick-j View Post
                      do his expertise documents not normally have a hologram instead of that stamp---was a time when you just had to worry about fake medals etc.

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                        #12
                        This set is so obvious fake that Detlev woudn't even write a COA to say it's fake...
                        Pieter
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                          #13
                          wy not just ask Detlef Niemann ,,,he keeps copy's off every expertise in his files ...

                          maybe better then just guess











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