EK1 cloth

[Patrick W]

Hi Guys

Could I get some opinions on this one please. I rather like it hope you do too.

Best

Patrick

[Patrick W]

anyone got any experience with these?

[Gary B]

Hi Patrick,

This looks to be identical to the one I sold on the e-stand/bazarr section awhile ago. It in fact might be the same one. I wil need to check my photo archives to be sure. Mine was purchased inthe 80s, as an original piece, from Maj Charlie Snyder.

Where did you get this?

Gary B

[Patrick W]

Thanks Gary please let me know if it is the same one- I got this from an auction with a load of items- both real and fake

[Gary B]

Patrick,

Not the exact same cross I sold but I believe from the same manufacturer. Scans attached.

Gary B

[Patrick W]

Certainly appears to be identical in construction - how come it was condemned as bad?

[Gary B]

Patrick,

Besides the "source" of the purchase, the patch glowed under UV light. It also did not conform to other known examples.

Gary B

[streptile]

Honestly I don't think anyone is capable of making a firm determination on these. The criteria are lacking.

Of course, if it's not UV-neg, then it's bad.

[all1knew]

Hello there,

I am one who does not believe in cloth EK's produced in this manner.

William Kramer

[schönbeck]

one could have been washed, but if this specimen also glow than it's more likely to be bad.

[Kent Muller]

IMO I feel the UV test isn't always reliable ( if an item has been cleaned or come in contact with chemicals, it can lead to false readings ) not saying its the case with this item, but one has to be careful when relying on such a test...

[Gary B]

Hi,

Kent and others are correct. The UV test is just one indicator of a piece's originality; the results of which should be weighed against many other factors before a final decision is rendered.

Gary B

[Patrick W]

Interesting discussion- thanks guys. I have just UV tested mine and only some white threads in the stitching visible on the rear glow- rest is UV dead. I am also of the opinion that UV is only an indicator as some materials used in tabs and cloth late war did glow- I had a bullion pilot badge that had glowing threads in the stitching and was no doubt real.

I assume the only real construction difference here is that the cross frame is dark rather than stitched silver bullion? any others out there similar to this one?

thanks

Patrick