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    #16
    Originally posted by ciritione View Post
    Finally a moderator has said something about this item...

    I was talking with Gerald about my doubts with the set and this is the the thread opened for me about the case: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=448470

    The spange seems a L/18 but with another diferent pin like a L/13 - L/17 or an unknown maker and I have the same opinion like Jon

    I really think that this discussion is correct and it have been delayed

    Really the set is wrong or it's ok?
    it's very interensant for the case, the mark of the case, the wrong spange into the case, the pin of the spange and for the similarity of the pin in the L/17 and in this L/18 into the L/17 case.

    Really this set need a discussion
    ;-)
    Then you should have opened the discussion on it. No need to wait for a mod to do it.
    pseudo-expert

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      #17
      Case

      Hello ,

      This is a real spange case ( NO wounded badge or EK 1 ....) I have posted a picture to make you see the difference .

      Regards,
      Gerald Berger
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        #18
        Originally posted by Gerald Berger View Post
        Hello ,

        This is a real spange case ( NO wounded badge or EK 1 ....) I have posted a picture to make you see the difference .

        Regards,
        Gerald Berger
        Thank you Gerald,

        A perfect photo and a very rare, nice case. In my opinion the set is 100% good.
        Best regards,
        Streptile

        Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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          #19
          Then... a very nice and interesant case Gerald

          Interesant because... why it's marked with a L/17 with a L/18 spange?

          Hermann Wernstein didn't make ek1 spanges, sorry... only seven prototypes are known with the L/13 design

          Why Hermann Wernstein marked a L/17 to an spange case with a B.H. spange?

          Why if Hermann Wernstein didn't produce spanges?

          The set is wrong because you have a very nice and interesant L/17 case with an interesant L/18 spange... only for this!

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            #20
            Originally posted by Don Doering View Post
            Then you should have opened the discussion on it. No need to wait for a mod to do it.
            Ok! for the next time I know now what to do...

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              #21
              L/17 didn't make spangen, but they did mark some L/17, why not the boxes too?
              regards
              jon

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                #22
                .

                Hello ,

                ONLY the small LDO paper is marked L/17.
                The case is marked L/ ?? ( maybe NOT L/17 ).
                You can not see it anymore.
                Maybe it's only the small LDO papers that have been put inside the case for no reason ? But I get it this way.

                regards ,

                Gerald

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                  #23
                  Can we see the front shots of the comparison spangen please.

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                    #24
                    sorry but what makes you so sure that L/17 never make spangen???

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                      #25
                      the rare mm'd L/17 1st class spangen are the same as the more avaliable L/13
                      also the rare mm'd L/17 2nd class spangen are the same as the L/13
                      they may/may not have added their own pin setup
                      also to note:
                      L/56 marked 2nd class spangen are the same as the 'segment claw die' of L/13
                      IMO L/13 were supplying
                      I think if they'd supplied dies, we'd see alot more L/17s?
                      regards
                      jon

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                        #26
                        for my reasearch about Wernstein and other we can proof (and we will show it in our book) that Wernstein produce spangen. Not only with a normal needle, also with screwback. They also produce combat awards. And i don't speak about the GAB or the IAB.

                        Frank will also show in his IC book a nice producer connection

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                          #27
                          L/17 screwback spangen?

                          I am truelly amazed!
                          I beg for a photo

                          regards
                          jon

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                            #28
                            Hi Jon,

                            i must correct me. We have docs from 1948 with an inventory. And in this inventory are listed

                            - Verschraubungen für EK 1
                            - Broschierungen für EK 1
                            - Broschierungen Spange Ek 1
                            - Broschierungen KVK
                            - Schraubscheiben

                            so no mention of an screwback spange only screwbacks. Interesting ist that you also find needle and pins (ball hinge) for combatawards like the aussault badge and other. So i am sure Wernstein produce more than we know.

                            Gruß

                            Basti

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                              #29
                              This Spange showed up today on a dealer's update listed as an unmarked Schickle.

                              With due respect to the dealer, who I know and like, I believe this is wrong. This is a (much more common) Mayer die.

                              Does anyone disagree?
                              Best regards,
                              Streptile

                              Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by streptile View Post

                                Does anyone disagree?
                                For me a L/18 B.H. Mayer's... not a L/15.

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