Spange on e-Stand

[George Stimson]

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=447797

Discuss.

[streptile]

I don't see any problems, except for the surprising fact that the LDO card is marked L/17.

I think it looks like a good Mayer in a good late LDO case.

[ekhunter]

Mayers Spange

Trevor, have you seen this type of pin on a Mayers second pattern before? The obverse definately looks Mayers, but the pin set up resembles more like that of a Meybauer or possibly one of the unknown maker set ups. We have a slew of spange experts here, maybe someone else will chime in and educate us here. please?

[streptile]

Trevor, have you seen this type of pin on a Mayers second pattern before?

Possibly not, but it doesn't mean much to me. I've seen it on the Unknown Maker, my own old Schickle, and a couple of others. Not only that, I've seen (and owned) a few Mayers that had pins I'd not seen on any other type. I guess the bottom line for me is that if the obverse and finish look like a Mayer, I'm not overly concerned about the pin. I will wait for some more input from Jon or Ben, as you say.

[Gdeutschland39]

I have not been much part of the discussions, but I was left wondering why this item was put up for discussion vs. others I have seen this week (e.g. the luft brocade, which the discussion did not arouse much debate, and the L marked EK2). I do not see anything wrong with the item put for sale except that is overpriced for the current market conditions.

[streptile]

I have not been much part of the discussions, but I was left wondering why this item was put up for discussion vs. others I have seen this week.

I guess someone had some doubts, or wanted reassurance. Any piece may be discussed, for any reason. The mere fact of having a discussion thread opened has no bearing on a piece's authenticity.

[tinmantis]

looks like a good 'short vien' die L/18

the L/17 mark is fun.
L/17 used L/13's spangen and marked them L/17 (and added their own pin)
although this info is based on but a handful of known examples

maybe this is an L/18 spangen bought by L/17, who also added one of their own pins?
maybe they even had a box of UnknownMaker pins!
regards
jon

[tinmantis]

also
these are ALL legit L/18s...

[tinmantis]

more:

[tinmantis]

last:

[streptile]

also
these are ALL legit L/18s...

I have at least two more pins to add to that array. Also legit um 26 Spangen:

[streptile]

And one more, a good old traditional one not show yet:

[streptile]

the L/17 mark is fun.

Also of note is that the case, while a good authentic wartime LDO case, is not one I've ever seen with a 26. So it could be the case that 5 used for their Spangen, whatever their source? Speculative.

[ciritione]

Finally a moderator has said something about this item...

I was talking with Gerald about my doubts with the set and this is the the thread opened for me about the case: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=448470

The spange seems a L/18 but with another diferent pin like a L/13 - L/17 or an unknown maker and I have the same opinion like Jon

I really think that this discussion is correct and it have been delayed

Really the set is wrong or it's ok?
it's very interensant for the case, the mark of the case, the wrong spange into the case, the pin of the spange and for the similarity of the pin in the L/17 and in this L/18 into the L/17 case.

Really this set need a discussion
;-)

[streptile]

I think this set is fine. A photo of the case, open and empty, with enough light to see the hole for the pin (to judge its length), would help.