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    Good day, all.

    I bought an EK2 on e-stand this week, that has been modified to be a RK. I asked the seller if he knew whether it was pre-1945 and though he could not say, he did tell me it came directly from a family.

    Now, my obvious question is if the experts here think this might indeed be an modified EK2 that was worn as a RK. Perhaps this is impossible to tell, it's just that it would make the cross a really great piece of living history!

    All opinions are welcome!

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        Originally posted by Panthera Tigris View Post

        I asked the seller if he knew whether it was pre-1945 and though he could not say, he did tell me it came directly from a family. Now, my obvious question is if the experts here think this might indeed be an modified EK2 that was worn as a RK. Perhaps this is impossible to tell, it's just that it would make the cross a really great piece of living history!
        I doubt anyone can say with any degree of certainty. It is an EK2 and it has had a modification to be worn as an RK. When this was done who knows? It would make the cross a great piece of history if you we knew where?, when?, who?, why? Unfortunately we don't so it will forever remain an EK2 by the maker '24' with a modification.
        Last edited by Adrian; 03-19-2010, 11:40 AM.

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          Is the ribbon period RK ribbon?

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            Thanks, Adrian. I expected as much, but you never know. Thanks for identifying the EK as a '24' by the way!

            The ribbon is an EK2 ribbon as far as I can tell, not a real RK one.

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              If it was bought from the family then you should be able to find out the name and maybe cross reference that to known RK winners.

              Rich
              Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
              Decorations of Germany

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                Good idea, Richard! I will contact the seller.

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                  It was what,80€ I think,- so you should be happy that its an EK2 that someone has humped up at one point in time.If it was period or not you will never know. I expect the sellar would have asked a lot more if he could have tied it to the recipient himself easily enough Ribbon is EK2

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                    Seems like I've seen this particular cross before. The jump ring has been bent then a RK style suspension loop added. I like it a lot and would forget about trying to establish authenticity and just enjoy it for what it is. I've seen a few EK2s that have been turned into watch fobs later considered RK conversions. No put down of item or seller! A nice item!
                    Last edited by AUSGANG; 03-19-2010, 03:36 PM.

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                      I think Detlev had 1 or 2 for sale recently....but no idea of any provenance with them. Pretty darn cool item though

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                        Originally posted by Panthera Tigris View Post
                        Thanks, Adrian. I expected as much, but you never know. Thanks for identifying the EK as a '24' by the way!

                        The ribbon is an EK2 ribbon as far as I can tell, not a real RK one.
                        It's a nice addition to any collection, and a good conversation piece. The EK2 ribbon looks hopeful by the way it seems like it once had some ties attached to the ends.

                        Originally posted by aff96 View Post
                        I think Detlev had 1 or 2 for sale recently....but no idea of any provenance with them. Pretty darn cool item though
                        Here is another being discussed: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/FORU...d.php?t=421512
                        Without becoming embroiled in the discussion on the grouping, I like this EK conversion too - but only as a modified EK2.

                        If I was to spend any serious money on an EK2/RK conversion it would need to be accompanied by a photo of the recipient unquestionably wearing the exact same cross I am buying.

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                          Wow, I truly appreciate the amount of input I have received here! Reminds me why I love Wehrmacht Awards so much.

                          Originally posted by AUSGANG View Post
                          I like it a lot and would forget about trying to establish authenticity and just enjoy it for what it is.
                          I most certainly will! To establish provenance here is probably impossible and therefore matters little, for it is a very nice piece as it is.

                          The seller couldn't tell me more, so there we have it.

                          It will look great in my EK2 collection and once in a while I'll just daydream a little and imagine it proudly adorning a young Knight's Cross winner's uniform.

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                            Originally posted by Jon Fish View Post
                            It was what,80€ I think,- so you should be happy that its an EK2 that someone has humped up at one point in time.
                            Don't think I'm not! Whatever the consensus, this was quite the bargain!

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