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    unmarked envelop and EK II ?

    Did you guys saw unmarked EK II class with original envelope too unmarked ?
    It is typical for some maker or ? I trust the seller.





    Thanks for advices and opinions guys

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    Ek

    Josef

    Can you post a picture of the backside of the envelope? Close-up shots of the cross can help get identified also. Jim

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      #3
      known fake packet !

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        #4
        Originally posted by CMSgt View Post
        Josef

        Can you post a picture of the backside of the envelope? Close-up shots of the cross can help get identified also. Jim
        Can not obtain better photos. It is from seller on internet. Envelope is by his words without stamp. Thank you again for help

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          #5
          Originally posted by wvdparis2 View Post
          known fake packet !
          are you sure ?

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            #6
            Originally posted by wvdparis2 View Post
            known fake packet !
            I think so, too. But interestingly, Detlev Niemann sold one of these last week, no cross included. Does he know something we do not?
            Best regards,
            Streptile

            Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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              #7
              EK II: Deumer
              packet: well known fake

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              Daniel
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                #8
                Agreed,

                The packet is a copy.

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                  #9
                  Thank you for opinions guys. I will pass this complet then. There are marked crosses from this maker which are more interesting for me..

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by streptile View Post
                    I think so, too. But interestingly, Detlev Niemann sold one of these last week, no cross included. Does he know something we do not?
                    I'm afraid he doesn't on this occasion, as this is undeniably a fake.

                    I think they've just about fooled every collector at one time, including me a decade or so go. It is still one of the better fakes out there, the printing is very good; the designation too close to original variants and the paper so very convincing.


                    KR


                    Marcus

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