Question about KC mm 65

[Hans Kondor]

And the DKiG is also very nice!

[hkusp40]

Beautiful and absolutely original K&Q RK, IMHO. I, too, have an early K&Q but only the loop is marked with 800/65 with no 800 or 65 on the cross itself. Here is a picture of mine for comparison. -Ger

[StefanK.]

Frh. von Boeselager received a K&Q at July 20th 1944. Is HE the original owner of your RK?

liebe Grüße,
Stefan

[walter1010de]

Klein&Quenzer KC

Beautiful and absolutely original K&Q RK, IMHO. I, too, have an early K&Q but only the loop is marked with 800/65 with no 800 or 65 on the cross itself. Here is a picture of mine for comparison. -Ger

Hello Ger!

Your KC is nearly identical to mine, except that Your cross is not marked "800".

Very, very nice cross.

As I know now, the K&Q KCs are not the leading ones - everyone wants to have the KCs made by Juncker or S&L, but I think the K&Q-KCs are very nice too.

[walter1010de]

Kc

Frh. von Boeselager received a K&Q at July 20th 1944. Is HE the original owner of your RK?

liebe Grüße,
Stefan

Hello Stefan,

I am very sorry, but the recipient of my KC is not as famous like Freiherr von Boeselager...

[walter1010de]

Bargain with K&Q Knights Crosses???

D. Niemann sold today (29th January 2010) a K&Q KC for the price of EURO 5950,--.

Why are K&Q Crosses available for this "special reduced prices"?

They are very well made, nice pieces of good old german craftsmanship.

I wonder...

[Wik]

I won't complain! I don't yet have a RK, so this gives me hope that I can get one on the lower end of the price scale

Very nice pieces in this topic as well!

[walter1010de]

"cheap" KCs by K&Q

I won't complain! I don't yet have a RK, so this gives me hope that I can get one on the lower end of the price scale

You are right - KCs are too expensive. I have a Niemann-award-catalogue from 1999 and the K&Q KC was there priced at DM 6000,--, that is EURO 3000,--.

Now, 11 years later the cheapest KCs (I think that these are now the K&Qs) are at EURO 6000,--.

But the difference between a K&Q and a L/12 is IMO too high.

Why do the collectors not like the K&Qs as much as other KCs?
Is it the "flaw-problem"? Or are they available in huge numbers everywhere so that collectors are bored of them?

[Bob Hritz]

The K&Q Knight's Crosses are lower priced because of the seemingly unlimited supply.

Bob Hritz

[streptile]

The K&Q Knight's Crosses are lower priced because of the seemingly unlimited supply.

Bob Hritz

Right

This leads to speculation about postwar manufacture.

However, your K+Q RK (thread-starter) -- without the 12 o'clock flaw -- should be more valuable because it is 100% a wartime piece.

Also, all RK's will fall in price over the next few years, in my personal opinion. I suspect they will all settle around $4,000 - $5,000 in the next, say, five years.

[gebris353]

Also, all RK's will fall in price over the next few years, in my personal opinion. I suspect they will all settle around $4,000 - $5,000 in the next, say, five years.

Why think so? You are saying that they arent an invest anymore and ppl should start selling them in order to not lose money? Of course I'm talking about the ones that dont "collect" them but invest to make money on the long term.

[walter1010de]

Falling prices for KCs

Right

(...)

Also, all RK's will fall in price over the next few years, in my personal opinion. I suspect they will all settle around $4,000 - $5,000 in the next, say, five years.

Interesting statement and if this "miracle" occurs and the prices of awards, especially KCs, will fall down to $ 5000 or below I will be very happy because then I will be able to afford one or two more

Since I am collecting documents, uniforms and awards, my friends and me saying every year: "the price of the Wehrmacht items are now so high, they cannot rise anymore" - every year we were wrong - until today

Financial crisis, joblessness - nothing stopped the exorbitant prices of german militaria of the WW II, especially the higher awards.
We will see, in about 5 years...

[Bob Hritz]

Well, I will be waiting patiently for this to happen. I can't even find 1957 pattern Knight's Crosses for reasonable prices any more.

Unless we have an global economic disaster, I don't think we will see prices for rare and/or desireable pieces dropping.

Bob Hritz

[Allan P.]

Right

Also, all RK's will fall in price over the next few years, in my personal opinion. I suspect they will all settle around $4,000 - $5,000 in the next, say, five years.

Interesting statement.

Based on?

I only ask as the price of RK (original) have risen since the end of WW11.

Demand has always exceeded supply.

Allan

[Darrell]

Also, all RK's will fall in price over the next few years, in my personal opinion. I suspect they will all settle around $4,000 - $5,000 in the next, say, five years.

Trevor, I'd be betting the only way that will happen if the currency goes to:

1 USD = 2 GBP

And I think we all know the answer to that dream ....