Knight´s Cross "4"

[VIPER]

He also confirmed the stamp used on the 935/4 was the same stamp used on the loop of mine which is also marked 935. Not that that means much........Regards Jimmy

[Leroy]

Jimmy,
This is interesting information. I think the puzzle is starting to take some shape now. I wonder if we have any jewelers on the forum who could share their views
on the dent row?
Best,
Leroy

[Brian S]

This detail on the dent row shows what I believe to be finishing pretty much even all over the beading. However slight, it obliterates the crispness of the dent row on the left. On the far left is the pock mark Dietrich pointed out on an earlier photo.

[VIPER]

Jimmy,
This is interesting information. I think the puzzle is starting to take some shape now. I wonder if we have any jewelers on the forum who could share their views
on the dent row?
Best,
Leroy

Dont forget the 6/9 flaw. I do agree with Dietrich that they need to be taken together....Jimmy

[Bill W.]

Is this flaw seen on the 935 4 and the 800 4 crosses? If so, which is bigger? Not the hole in the beading, but the flaw to the right of that that appears as an irregular line.

[Dietrich Maerz]

I still have the same type cross Andy.

Brian,

you never told me that you have two B-Types!

Dietrich

[Leroy]

Just can't get close enough.........sorry.

Dietrich! --""Just when you think you're out....they drag you back in!"--The Godfather

[Brian S]

I have only one B-type. The camera I have now is better. Now I'm trying to focus in on those areas you've been talking about. I have a great knee flaw photo. Shows two distinct tiny lines. The flaw was actually a double little crack. But as Chris Jenkins has said and I agree, that is an opening flaw or crack(s) in the die subject to change based on material type, pressures, and as Dave K. said, it could be broken off, changed on extraction. But nonetheless, it is a flaw... And must be considered.

[Dietrich Maerz]

If it is still the 'old' one it certainly has not the same '800' stamp as the "800-4".

[Brian S]

...you tell me please...

[Leroy]

Brian,
I don't think that's the same stamp as on my 800-4.
Best,
Leroy

[Luftm40]

nor on the one I posted

[Leroy]

Bill,
The flaw (line) you posted in Post #110 does not appear on my cross.

All,
The "dimple" on the 3 o'clock arm, 3rd full bead out from the 6 o'clock arm, also does not show up on my cross at all on the obverse side. On the reverse side, on that same bead and about half-way up, there is a clear "slash", running from left to right.

[VIPER]

The 800 is not the same as mine either. I am also unable to detect the dimple flaw on 3 o'clock....Jimmy

[Leroy]

If you look at the "slash" mark on the third bead of my cross posted in Post #118, and compare it to the defects shown by Dietrich on the third and fourth beads of an 935-4 cross in the companion thread to this one ("'B' type die flaw progression"), I believe that my 800-4 cross shows the defect much more distinctly than the 935-4 (and does not show the other defect at all). This is the 935-4 shown: